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Luc Benac

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Re: 14' boards with clean lines?
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2016, 08:21:48 PM »
The JL Sidewinder looks good and has multiple sizing options. Black color though? Any other color options available? Black is a no go straight up.

I have been told that it will come in both Carbon construction ($$$) and JL Signature sandwich construction ($$).
No info on the weight of a Signature construction 14x27 or 14x25.
Still unclear why the Rail is only available in Carbon.

Sunova Allwater 14'x25.5" 303L Viento 520
Sunova Torpedo 14'x27" 286L Salish 500
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Re: 14' boards with clean lines?
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2016, 08:38:08 PM »
Rail carbon is light! Lighter than Bullet V2.

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Re: 14' boards with clean lines?
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2016, 09:10:27 PM »
Rail carbon is light! Lighter than Bullet V2.

Yes in Swiss Franc but not in Canadian dollar $$$
Sunova Allwater 14'x25.5" 303L Viento 520
Sunova Torpedo 14'x27" 286L Salish 500
Naish Nalu 11'4" x 30" 180L Andaman 520
Sunova Steeze 10' x 31" 150L
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Re: 14' boards with clean lines?
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2016, 09:42:28 PM »
"This board is stable and doesn't stick in the front when paddling into glides.  Super smooth entry rocker."

Lightweight with a super smooth entry rocker - Nice!   8)   Look forward to your review of the board Yugi.  Should handle some decent sized waves based on your photos -> and take-off sooner than even his revised M-14.  You and your buddy are in for some fun times.   :)
Fast is FUN!   8)
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Re: 14' boards with clean lines?
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2016, 10:06:47 PM »
Rail carbon is light! Lighter than Bullet V2.

Yes in Swiss Franc but not in Canadian dollar $$$

Prices are going up for boards, but we are getting nailed especially hard up here right now. The Starboard Hybrid Allstar is supposedly a bargain compared to the carbon version, but pricing at around $3200.00 plus tax is getting spendy.

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Re: 14' boards with clean lines?
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2016, 11:28:00 PM »
The JL Sidewinder looks good and has multiple sizing options. Black color though? Any other color options available? Black is a no go straight up.

I have been told that it will come in both Carbon construction ($$$) and JL Signature sandwich construction ($$).
No info on the weight of a Signature construction 14x27 or 14x25.
Still unclear why the Rail is only available in Carbon.
I would think that the Rail only comes in carbon because it is aimed at advanced riders, and they nearly always want the lightest board they can get, and are willing to pay for it.

Personally, I have gone full circle now with downwind boards, and would rather have a stronger and more durable board (and cheaper) even if it does mean it is a bit heavier. There are limits of course - over 30lbs for a 14fter affects performance and portability too much IMO. But boards take such a battering in bigger downwind conditions, and I am sick of getting big repair bills about 50% of the times I go out - damage nearly always sustained during the shuffle or entering/exiting the water. So, the super-lightweight and therefore super-fragile constructions are very nice for downbreezing, but once you are into 30 knot territory they get a bit tiresome, and there is enough push from the wind and swell that those extra couple of pounds don't matter - in fact they might even have some advantages.

Plus the pricing of these superlight carbon boards is getting too much IMO. When a production board from Thailand is more expensive than a custom built at home, you know something has gone wrong. The idea of moving production overseas was to reduce costs. But the high cost of transport, and import tax duties in many countries, now largely offset the lower labour costs, and carbon is super-expensive wherever you are.

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Re: 14' boards with clean lines?
« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2016, 01:29:07 AM »
In europe the Rail is significantly less expensive (and lighter) than the Bullet V2 (which went up a lot this year).

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Re: 14' boards with clean lines?
« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2016, 01:32:45 AM »
I’ve been wondering on the optimal width for DW. I’m comfy on 27 wide and ready to go narrower. If balance were not an issue would narrower be faster or at what point does a bit of width help one get up on a plane?




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Re: 14' boards with clean lines?
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2016, 02:01:59 AM »
i dropped down in thickness and at 26.25" and hardly ever go in unless i do something stupid or do a run approaching the 1 1/2 - 2 hour mark were my legs start to go 25" shouldn't be a problem and you really notice the glide between bumps improving once you get the width down.

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Re: 14' boards with clean lines?
« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2016, 02:06:04 AM »
^ post a pic of your new 14'. It has nice clean lines.

Agree on the thinner board being better is cross chop. Less side to slap against.

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Re: 14' boards with clean lines?
« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2016, 02:26:16 AM »
think this is the one you mean but i actually sold this one to make a new one with a small tweak to it but annoyingly have been to busy to get it done. hopefully when i get back from holiday i will be able to find time

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Re: 14' boards with clean lines?
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2016, 02:27:07 AM »
I have seen the Rail in action Downwinding a few times now!


The JL stuff is without doubt the best off the shelf gear I have seen.. Build quality is up there with my Richmond and Custom SIC's.

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Re: 14' boards with clean lines?
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2016, 04:50:11 AM »
Clean lines
SIC RS 14x23, 2018
SIC RS 14x26, 2018
Lightcorp Signature Race 14x24.75, 2018 (sold)
JP Australia AdventurAir 12x36, 2017
Starboard Allstar 14x24.5, 2017 (sold)
SIC Bullet 14x27.25 TWC, 2015
Jimmy Lewis Sidewinder 14x25, 2016 (sold)
Sprint 14x23, 2015 (sold)
JL Stiletto 14x28, 2014 (sold)

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Re: 14' boards with clean lines?
« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2016, 05:05:40 AM »
out of interest what board would people say does not have clean lines?

from what i am reading it seams most people are getting this clean look more from the paint job than the board its self?

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Re: 14' boards with clean lines?
« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2016, 05:42:57 AM »
hahahahaha

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and even more when they've paid obscene amounts for it.

95% of peeps on forums love the stuff they got. If we were on a "Love Thyself" forum this would be a good thing.

 


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