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Newport Peninsula blocking some bacteria runoff?
« on: February 27, 2015, 06:54:43 PM »
We are set for several days of rain.  That means runoff, and in SoCal, it is not good.  I have been developing a theory about avoiding the worst of the bacteria and I need you to tell me if it has any validity. 

If you look at the map below, you can see that the area around Newport Point and Newport Pier is out on the peninsula.  The peninsula is only about 200 yards wide.  It seems to me there should be very little runoff going out into the ocean around there, because most of the runoff for the area would go into the harbor and then run out of the harbor entrance.   Because of that, it appears that the relatively cleanest water around would be around Blackies and Newport Pier during periods of rain runoff. 

What do you think?

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Re: Newport Peninsula blocking some bacteria runoff?
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2015, 08:42:53 PM »
That makes plenty good sense. Now if the wind doesn't come up too high.

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Re: Newport Peninsula blocking some bacteria runoff?
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2015, 08:50:50 PM »
You have to figure in the south east winds during a storm.
Seems like you would be surfing right in the poo-poo plume.

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Re: Newport Peninsula blocking some bacteria runoff?
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2015, 08:55:13 PM »
I think most of the run off problem off Newport Beach is from
what comes down the Santa Ana River......all kinds of crap,
literally.

So, if the current is pulling the river debris and bacteria
south towards Blackies, probably better to avoid it.  Sometimes
there are tree branches and other stuff floating in the water
from big storm run off that comes down the river. 
Wouldn't want to hit a tree branch either.

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There is often lots of bacteria in Newport Harbor.  The area
South and West of Lido Isle is often the most polluted with
bacteria, probably because it gets the least circulation.
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Re: Newport Peninsula blocking some bacteria runoff?
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2015, 09:10:17 PM »
At Newport Pier, you are about 4 miles from the Santa Ana River and 4 miles from the Newport Harbor entrance.  That gives the bacteria some distance and time to dilute.  I'm not saying the water would be clean at Newport Pier, but it might be the least dirty spot when there is runoff.   


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Re: Newport Peninsula blocking some bacteria runoff?
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2015, 10:55:38 PM »
Maybe they should just post a big turd flag.  When the turd flag flies, stay out of the water.
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Re: Newport Peninsula blocking some bacteria runoff?
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2015, 04:12:00 AM »
What the heck do all those yogi veggie hippy liberal politicians do in California?????
Jeeze!!!!

In New England we surf in Boston Harbor and Narragansett Bay, hell.... even New York City!

We surf the inlets and river mouth's all over the densely populated North East every day.... no one ever gets sick or infected from the water.

So how does a state that outlaws and bans everything...... manage to remain so toxic after a little rain ?????????

and it's all just matter of fact.

I just don't get it  ???

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Re: Newport Peninsula blocking some bacteria runoff?
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2015, 05:50:01 AM »
STC
Bear in mind that we have been in a drought for many years..
Inlanders that have no regard for the ocean will dump their garbage,
dead animals, oil, and crap into the dry watersheds.

When there is a good wash, the crap runs off..

All the dried dead stuff floats, and some not, but gets pushed by the
strong water and mud flow toward the Ocean..

This is a concrete jungle with few chances to capture and absorb the runoff.
So when it rains it is like a flash flood in the rivers and tributaries..

The Santa Ana River is over 100 Miles long and dumps right on the south border of Huntington Beach;
which is the North border of Newport Beach.

We have already had a good first flushing...this season..so after that maybe not so bad..

Another issue is the Waste Water Treatment Plant located on the Santa Ana River.
It has been known to overflow and dump raw sewage into the river...Poo...
It has a pipe that runs 2 miles out in the Ocean..

I prefer my spot many miles North of the debris...

It does occur to me that whatever the swell direction, (south swell pushes the crap from the harbor north, and north swell pushes the crap from the river south) Newport is in the Plume...

On a side note there have been some clusters reported of surfers in this specific area getting rare blood diseases..
heavy metals, toxins...who knows...



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Re: Newport Peninsula blocking some bacteria runoff?
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2015, 05:59:43 AM »
Yeah, but that third eye that has grown in recent years has turned out to be really useful. 
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Re: Newport Peninsula blocking some bacteria runoff?
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2015, 06:05:31 AM »
Yeah, but that third eye that has grown in recent years has turned out to be really useful.
Obviously. that Eye is Brown.
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Re: Newport Peninsula blocking some bacteria runoff?
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2015, 06:24:26 AM »
Oh man, that joke stinks.
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Re: Newport Peninsula blocking some bacteria runoff?
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2015, 06:35:45 AM »
Oh man, that joke stinks.

More Stink Eye..

Or perhaps you have been giving Stink Eye and didn't know it...
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Re: Newport Peninsula blocking some bacteria runoff?
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2015, 06:44:26 AM »
Beach water quality data exists, here's California. Newport Beach at 38th is listed as a superstar beach......clean.
http://www.nrdc.org/water/oceans/ttw/ca.asp

EPA has a GIS map interface for their database too.....sampling points are the same as NRDC.org but there is more detailed info for each.
http://watersgeo.epa.gov/beacon2/about.html

No question you'll get far more during a big storm. If you have areas of combined sewers (storm and sewage) whenever you get a big rain event you get an overflow when the pipes get too full and the treatment plant can't handle it. In the weather we've had the last couple of years here in the NE whole treatment plants have been flooded out.....everything...untreated.... went into the water. Most major CSO's in the US now at least have a disinfection and screening system in place but when it really hits the fan all bets are off.


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Re: Newport Peninsula blocking some bacteria runoff?
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2015, 06:47:33 AM »
Oh man, that joke stinks.

More Stink Eye..

Or perhaps you have been giving Stink Eye and didn't know it...
LOL.  Good one.
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Re: Newport Peninsula blocking some bacteria runoff?
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2015, 08:27:45 AM »
Just a FYI a good friend mine has worked on the HB treatment plant.  If it's raining they are dumping raw sewage into the ocean. This is because of so many builders are tying right into the sewer system for direct run off.  It quickly overwhelms their capacity and it gets dumped.  This is why I don't SUP the river jetties and coincidentally I've not gotten head colds and sinus infections.
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