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SIC Fish 7'11"
« on: December 16, 2014, 03:48:52 PM »
Here are some Pics of the SIC Fish
7'11" X 29-3/4", 100L
Quad. Pretty light..will weigh later.

This board is super thin.
Refined Rails.
Aggressive tail Kick.

Can't wait for conditions to ride it..

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Re: SIC Fish 7'11"
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2014, 04:59:05 PM »
Looks like a nice board. I'm all for swallows on wide tailed parallel railed boards. Reduces foam at the tail which is a factor in turning and getting bite with these boards
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Re: SIC Fish 7'11"
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2014, 05:14:06 PM »
Looking forward to a ride report,should be stable with that outline would love to see an 8'2' at 115lit

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Re: SIC Fish 7'11"
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2014, 07:01:16 PM »
Wow...what a sweet looking board...bet that thing will rip!

Wish I could ride it but I am too heavy and don't have the skills.

I think the 8'11" (I think it's the next size) would still not be big enough for me so I guess it looks like the 9'5" will have to do...now to just save up some money and sell the 8'11" Allwave.

Looking forward to hearing the ride report...

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Re: SIC Fish 7'11"
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2014, 09:21:12 PM »
I'm pretty sure I put one of those scratches in the deck at the BOP last year. ;)

I rode this thing and loved it. Is every SIC board awesome? I've surfed three of them and loved them all. The thin profile made me start thinking about dropping thickness out of my next board.

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Re: SIC Fish 7'11"
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2014, 10:37:21 PM »
IMO reducing thickness is the highest priority in the  reduction  of dimensions

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Re: SIC Fish 7'11"
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2014, 06:44:28 AM »
The 7'11 Fish is a very interesting board indeed... thanks Steve Lis and Mark Raaphorst !.

Thanks for posting these images Sup-p. Please, keep us updated once you surf it.

From these pictures, I see some differences between the 7'11 and the 8'8: Even though I haven't measured the 7'11 one foot off the tail, it seems wider than my 8'8, which is a whooping 22.75" at that point.  A big factor in it's stability and wave catching ease. It seems that the 7'11 tail kick is a bit more aggro than the one on the 8'8.  Also, it seems that the flatter deck in the middle rounds off a bit more on the back of the 7'11. That change in curvature is less noticeable on the 8'8. Also, the tail v seems deeper on the 7'11.

I can't be happier with my 8'8 SIC Fish, which floats me very well, at 82 kg weight, with it's 111 liters and surfs off the tail like no other board i've ever used at this size, with it's outline. 

Why i didn't buy the 7'11 ? I was very tempted. Two reasons, none of which have to do with volume or stability. One of my favorite breaks is a mile offshore and the longer 8'8 is easier to paddle out there, plus, when waves are very small, the longer board glides a bit further. If i had the cash... ::)well, i would have two fishes !

My review: http://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php/topic,25106.msg261488.html#msg261488 ..although by now, it's a bit outdated !

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Re: SIC Fish 7'11"
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2014, 05:45:55 PM »
+1 headmount on thickness reduction. My SIC at 3 3/4 feels really good. My "binky" boards which I loved are now in somebody else's possession. There seems to a trend from super short boards towards slightly longer boards that are thin in order to maintain a lower volume, but still have what I like to call surface area.

Dave Daum and Daniel Hughes have created some very interesting boards that are long, relatively narrow and thin thin thin. A 10' Crocodile under 100 liters for example. The theory is that you can paddle those much more readily than a short 7'6" at under a 100 liters. In a contest situation the guy who catches more waves will usually have the advantage.

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Re: SIC Fish 7'11"
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2014, 04:54:10 PM »
There seems to a trend from super short boards towards slightly longer boards that are thin in order to maintain a lower volume, but still have what I like to call surface area.


Surface area...hmmm, a plausible explanation to the sensation of stability i feel on my 8'8 fish at 111 liters. Even though the board floats me fine at stand still (+/-80 kg), paddle out of the water, when in motion, it gains a whole lot of "quietness". So much, that i've traversed very choppy, confused and backwashed waters without falling off, a feat i was unable to achieve on other smaller, but floatier boards i demo'ed.
Remains to be seen if i can tweak some arms here and demo the 7'11 fish at 100 liters. .... and review it. It would be a very interesting comparison against similarly sized, but floatier, boards. 
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Re: SIC Fish 7'11"
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2014, 04:56:12 AM »
I would prefer reduced width vs a thinned out board.


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Re: SIC Fish 7'11"
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2014, 09:48:07 AM »
Thanks for the pictoral.  They had them at the demo day but I didn't get a chance to jump up on one.  Somewhat of a "Kid in a Candy Store Syndrome" during that event.

Cardiff, what are you up on these days, still the small Starboards? (I'm too jumbo for that board so thinning it out for me would only make it a better prone board.  ;))

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Re: SIC Fish 7'11"
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2014, 07:22:59 AM »
Sic Fish 7'11", 100L,

Rider ~180# + Wetsuit.

Initial impressions

Interesting design, super thin, sharp rails.

This is a Demo Board, paint chips..
We should be beyond paint chip issues..

Day 1

Short Interval Storm Surf, mostly shoulder to head high.

Waves jacking fast.

Seemed to have a fair amount of drag on the inside paddle out. (quad set up stock fins).
Lots of water turbulence, so most short boards would drag here.
Board sits flat on the water, hardly any rocker so nose is right at water level too.
Super stable..

Jacking backside drop, straight down, no recovery. Bam..

A few dumpy waves, felt ok..

Jacking frontside clean barrel, well over head, high and dry.
Micro adjusts in the pocket nicely. Full rail and fast...

Ok starting to feel it...

Day 2
Waves are much cleaner and better organized..
Head High +
Peeling for the most part..

On rail the board performs.
Rail to rail in the flats is sluggish..wide board..normal.
Off the tops are pretty lively, Foot back and pivot..

Down the line pumping and carving..board performs...

Day 3
High tide, weak, rolly...

Getting the hang of paddling this Fishy.
Nose (board) gets hung up punching through white water unless you pitch the nose up into the soup.
Most boards have more pronounced nose rocker, especially at the tip, that helps the board punch up into the oncoming whitewater.
So just some minor adjusting and we are good..

Caught quite a few outside mushers and just pumped all the way through to the inside...
Yeah this is fun...

Test Over...

I think some fin variations will really up the roller coaster performance, harder off the tops and more radical top pivots..
Board is a winner...except for the paint chips...

Lastly, the tail kick is too short to use the paddle across technique..
 
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Re: SIC Fish 7'11"
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2014, 07:36:21 AM »
Great stuff Ralph. I have been in the Kafka  hall of paint codes with SIC for my Recon which CHIPS like  mu@#$%&er. And then I got the RSP rail tape!

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Re: SIC Fish 7'11"
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2014, 08:13:14 AM »
Thanks for the review Ralph.

How does it compare to the SIMSUP SS3/ST in stability, ease of wave catching and ride?

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Re: SIC Fish 7'11"
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2014, 06:58:12 AM »
Cardiff, My thoughts on surface area were meant to be observations on trends in the contest arena.

My own experience on a borrowed Starboard AB at around 97 liters (the narrow one) versus a Laird Firefish at 100 liters seemed to support this idea.

Could NOT ride the AB at all and had some great waves on the Firefish. The Laird was 8'6" long thin and narrow. This was the start of my thoughts on surface area.

The SIC fishes seem interesting to me for that reason.

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