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Ama's on the left
Just for the sake of curiosity, since my ACE is 2011, how different is the 2012 model? Some local guys are already asking...my ACE is the first one ever in our waters.
Quote from: balance_fit on February 18, 2012, 02:20:40 PMJust for the sake of curiosity, since my ACE is 2011, how different is the 2012 model? Some local guys are already asking...my ACE is the first one ever in our waters.From what we can tell comparing 12'6"s the 2012 seems to have a bit more rocker and volume at the front and the pin tail carries more volume at the back by not tapering as aggressively. Supposedly these changes are to increase the stability. We have had one guy go back to the 2011 model because he didn't like the 2012 as much, but he's a smaller guy with really good balance ( paddles a 23 NEW as well)
Quote from: greatdane on February 20, 2012, 04:03:26 PMAma's on the left True dat. The ama only prevents flipping to the left. WTF was I thinking?
Quote from: 1paddle2paddle on February 21, 2012, 11:05:30 AMQuote from: greatdane on February 20, 2012, 04:03:26 PMAma's on the left True dat. The ama only prevents flipping to the left. WTF was I thinking?I knew you didn't mean that (-: I have just flipped an OC1 to the right so many times it's burned in my head!
I've got a 12'6" NEW which is like the 2010 version of the Ace, just with a different name. When trying to find the ideal position to stand on the board, I like to get as much of the board's waterline engaged as possible. I figure this will result in less pushing of the water and better speed. For me, I stand near the front of the footwells on my board when in flat water. If I'm on a runner, I'll take 1 or 2 two-footed hops back to keep the nose from digging in to the wave in front.I'm still working on riding the board in surf stance from the very back of the board and out of the foot wells. I find it very tricky standing on the tail of my board in surf stance. The 14' Ace has a flatter area behind the footwells that make it quite a bit easier to ride the tail in surf stance. I think this board really excels in mild to moderate downwinders. It just seems to slip through the water effortlessly while letting you feel the bumps and paddle accordingly to catch them. I have other boards that as fast or even faster in flat water but nothing is as much fun on a downwinder.
Hey guys, I find that I'm standing back by the handles on both my 14 and 12'6" if I go forward I seem to loose the glide. It interesting as the general wisdom round here is to stand as far forward as possible. I also find that I loose the stability if I stand right up the front when going downwind, so much so that I generally stay back and only go forward to drop down a wave. Then I have to run back really fast cause I accelerates down the wave so fast it's not funny ( and I end up in the water). I am running a bit more weight than balance_ fit about 200 lbs which makes the downwind trim and general balance challenging As far as stability in chop goes we are paddling ACEs in everything. On Tuesday's race we where dealing with 3 to 4' waves and 10+ knots, at an angle across the course. The pure downwind boards where slightly faster on the downwind leg, but with the ACEs speed I could pull them in and pass them upwind. These boards really fly upwind in rough conditions, the tail releases down the back of waves. We've even got a couple of guys who have worked out how to surf them down the line of a swell ( the rest of us are stuck with straight shooting) The 2012 changes seem to help with catching the larger swells, the increased rocker and volume at the front gives a bit more leeway on th drop before having to lift the bow. Argosi, demo a recent 25. Guys stepping up from the NEW are finding the recent ACEs a lot faster....although we do have some 23 NEWs going really fast as well