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SUP General / Re: Paddle out pics!
« on: December 21, 2010, 01:47:28 PM »
Here's a few of my favs, from my collection of rips from various sites, lots from this one in fact.





Don't really know where they are, but I'll bet some here do.

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Random / Re: The Great Crash & Burn Thread
« on: December 05, 2010, 12:33:38 PM »
Youth, why is it wasted on young people?  >:(

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Environment / Sea Level Could Rise in South, Fall in North
« on: December 02, 2010, 09:12:25 PM »
This is the type of global warming stuff that I just love, uncertainty reigns supreme.
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12/02/2010
 
The Uncertainties of Global Warming
Sea Level Could Rise in South, Fall in North
By Gerald Traufetter

REUTERS
Climate change is expected to cause sea levels to rise -- at least in some parts of the world. Elsewhere, the level of the ocean will actually fall. Scientists are trying to get a better picture of the complex phenomenon, which also depends on a host of natural factors.

When presented as a globe, the Earth looks as round and smooth as a billiard ball. To anyone standing on a beach, the ocean looks as flat as a pancake.

But perception is deceptive. "In reality, the water in the oceans wobbles all over the place," says oceanographer Detlef Stammer. He isn't talking about waves, but large-scale bulges and bumps in the sea level.

Stammer, who is the director of the Center for Marine and Climate Research at the University of Hamburg, is familiar with the incorrect notions that lay people have, which is why he likes to present them with two numbers to shatter their illusions. "In the Indian Ocean, the sea level is about 100 meters (330 feet) below the average, while the waters around Iceland are 60 meters above the average."

The incorrect belief that ocean water is evenly distributed lives on in the debate over climate change, says Stammer. The rising sea level is widely viewed as the most threatening consequence of global warming. Images of Bangladeshis wading through floodwaters are a favorite horror scenario used by some environmentalists. "But people act as if the water from melting glaciers were distributed as uniformly in the oceans as the water in our bathtubs at home," says Stammer.

But the reality is counter-intuitive. According to the most recent estimates, the sea level is expected to rise by about 1 meter (3.28 feet) -- on average -- in the next 100 years. This is the number that will be mentioned again and again during negotiations at the United Nations Climate Change Conference in Cancun, Mexico over the next two weeks. "But this average value doesn't really help coastal planners," says Stammer.

It is certainly correct that the total amount of liquid in the oceans is increasing. But the way water expands in ocean basins differs widely. There will be regions of the world where nothing much will change, while the sea level will rise by well over the 1-meter average in others. "The sea level could even fall along some coasts," says Stammer.

Winners and Losers

Scientists still don't know exactly the degree to which glaciers will melt as a result of rising temperatures. The most important factor in this equation will be the rate at which the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets shrink. At the moment, it appears that the net amount of melt water is still rising in Greenland. It is currently at 237 cubic kilometers (57 cubic miles) per year. But the volume of ice at the South Pole seems to be generally stable. "The ice is melting in western Antarctica, but in the larger eastern part, snow is actually building up," says Stammer.

The sea level currently rises by about 3 millimeters (0.1 inches) a year on average. A number of factors contribute to this rise, including water from melting glaciers and the constant increase in the amount of ground water used in agriculture. It is also partly due to a simple thermal effect: Because water expands as it gets warmer, rising temperatures cause the sea level to rise. All of this will accelerate even further by the end of the century, leading to a total increase of 1 meter, according to the current consensus among oceanographers.

In reality, the simple message of rising waters is greatly oversimplified. The process behind it is highly complex, and one that will produce winners and losers. Scientists are only gradually beginning to understand the phenomenon and its processes, some of which work in opposing directions. "It's just in the last few years that science has taken a more in-depth look at regional prognoses for rising sea levels," Stammer says.

This is partly due to the complexity of the material itself. Average values can be computed relatively easily. Regional effects, on the other hand, are partly influenced by winds and currents, with gravity and the laws of thermodynamics also playing an important role. Making sense of how all of these factors are interrelated requires a relatively solid understanding of the individual processes -- and massive computing power to perform the calculations.

Surprises for Scientists

For a long time, scientists didn't even have precise data on specific water levels in individual locations around the planet. That changed in late December 1992, when a satellite was placed into service that uses a radar altimeter to measure the sea level, to within a few centimeters, anywhere in the oceans. "In the past, we had to travel around the ocean and painstakingly take measurements," says Stammer. "Today I can go on the Internet and download the satellite data from space onto my computer."

The flood of data from the orbiting satellite has produced all kinds of surprises for scientists in recent years. For instance, while seas have risen by about 15 centimeters in the tropical Western Pacific, the ocean near San Francisco has fallen by about the same amount. "On the German coast, on the other hand, the sea level today is a few centimeters higher than it was 15 years ago," says Claus Böning of the Kiel-based excellence cluster "The Future Ocean."

Such effects are the result of natural fluctuations that unfold over decades. The currents in the world's oceans are constantly shifting. This applies to the Gulf Stream, which provides Europe with warm water, just as it does to the Pacific circulation system, which reacts to the moods of El Niño.

But what role do anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions play in terms of the planet's rising sea levels? Newton's law of gravity provides the scientists with an initial answer.

Virtually Unchanged

If the Greenland ice sheet, which is 3 kilometers (1.88 miles) thick in some places, were to melt completely, sea levels would rise by 7 meters on average. It would take many centuries before the 3 million cubic kilometers of glaciers ended up in the ocean. But people living near Germany's North Sea coast would hardly even notice, because the sea level there would remain virtually unchanged. The water would even subside off the coast of Norway. "And, purely theoretically, the sea level would actually fall by several meters off the coast of Greenland," Stammer explains.

This striking effect is based on the law of gravity, which states that every mass attracts every other mass. Water levels are higher off the coast of Iceland for the same reason. Volcanic activity pushes heavy masses of rock out of the Earth's interior, and those masses attract water like magnets. By contrast, sea levels are lower in the Indian Ocean because, eons ago, a meteorite most probably knocked so much rock out of the Earth's crust there that the gravitational force attracting water was reduced.

If the Greenland ice sheet shrinks, the island will lose mass and, along with it, gravitational force. As a result, much less water will accumulate off the island's shores than today. To a lesser extent, the same effect is present in the oceans of almost the entire northern hemisphere, including the North Sea. New York, to give another example, would also not get the full amount of the 7-meter sea level rise, but only half of it.

North of a line that passes from Newfoundland through the Atlantic and the North Sea, the sea level would fall. In return, the nations bordering the entire Indian Ocean and the Pacific, as well as the countries of South America and Africa, would be the true victims of a global rise in sea levels.

In those regions, the oceans would not just rise by the average of 7 meters, but by as much as 8 or even 10 meters. "Of course, this is only a theoretical model," says Stammer, the oceanographer. Conversely, if the Antarctic lost ice mass, the effects would be felt more strongly by coastal residents in the northern hemisphere. To a certain extent, the two effects in the far north and the far south could offset each other. If the Arctic and the Antarctic thawed at the same rate, the region in the middle would be the most severely affected.

Scientists at Princeton University recently published a model-based calculation of rising sea levels in the journal Climate Change. The model also includes effects that result from geophysical force, namely the effect that the Earth's rotation has on sea levels. "In this way, we are incrementally approaching the true distribution of the rise in sea levels," says Stammer, who will be one of the authors of the next global climate report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), to be released in 2014. The report "will contain, for the first time, a separate chapter on this issue," says the scientist.

As if all of this weren't complicated enough, sea levels are also affected by winds and currents, which are themselves changing as a result of anthropogenic climate change. Claus Böning, the Kiel-based oceanographer, sees this as the real challenge for members of his profession.

In Serious Trouble

For the atolls in the tropical Pacific, which are barely a meter above sea level, everything depends on the future development of the El Niño phenomenon, says Böning. Polynesia, for example, had to cope with a sea-level rise of up to 15 centimeters in only four years, from 1996 to 2000. "This exceeds the rise caused by global warming by almost a factor of 10," says Böning. If El Niño gets stronger, the Pacific islands could be in serious trouble.

The critical phenomenon for Western Europe, on the other hand, is the Gulf Stream, which is part of the massive trans-Atlantic circulation system. Like a pump, it pushes masses of water northward, where they sink into the depths of the northern ocean. "This is why the sea level is a meter lower in the northern part of the Gulf Stream than in the south," says Böning.

But this gradient shifts when the Gulf Stream changes its position, which it does as part of a completely natural cycle. This explains why the sea level in the Labrador Sea off the eastern coast of Canada rose by 8 centimeters between 1993 and 1998. Then the rising trend stopped and was reversed. "We have paid little attention so far to this up-and-down, because it was only fluctuating within a manageable range," says Böning.

But the scientist fears that this delicate balance could tip during a warmer future on greenhouse Earth. In addition, the computer models predict that the Gulf Stream will weaken by about 25 percent. Böning warns that this could cause the sea level to rise by about 20 centimeters in the North Sea.

'Fraught with Uncertainty'

Europeans also need to keep an eye on the possibility of a significant shift in the prevailing wind directions. "For us, this could mean low-pressure troughs over the North Atlantic," says Böning.

But this is precisely where the precision of the climate predictions reaches its limits. "Of course," as Böning openly admits, "they are fraught with uncertainty, which also applies to our models for the rise in sea levels."

The oceanographer is well aware that this message is not very satisfactory for politicians who are expected to make decisions in Cancun. That's why he emphasizes the principle of foresight. "We should prepare ourselves for unpleasant surprises," says Böning.

Despite the many unanswered questions, there is one thing scientists know for certain: The land along the German Bight is sinking by a millimeter a year. That effectively means a 1-millimeter increase in sea level along the coast every year.

This phenomenon is also attributable to climate change, but in this case humans are not at fault. Because the massive weight of the Ice Age glaciers is no longer pushing down on Scandinavia, the land there is rising. Farther south -- just like on the opposite end of a child's seesaw -- the land is sinking.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,732303-2,00.html

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Environment / Re: Obama team lifts Gulf Coast oil drilling moratorium
« on: December 02, 2010, 09:04:34 PM »
Nnnnnnnnnnnno!  :-\

AP source: Gov't won't end drilling ban off Fla.
(AP) – 1 day ago (12-1-10)

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — President Barack Obama's administration won't allow any new oil drilling in the eastern Gulf of Mexico for at least the next seven years because of the BP oil spill.

A senior administration official told The Associated Press on Wednesday that drilling leases won't be considered in the waters off Florida as part of the change. He spoke on condition of anonymity because the decision hadn't been announced yet.

He said that because of the BP spill, the administration now understands the need to elevate safety and environmental standards. Before the spill, the administration had considered a plan to allow drilling in the eastern Gulf.

Interior Secretary Ken Salazar is expected to discuss the decision later Wednesday afternoon.

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

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SUP General / Re: naughty or nice?
« on: November 20, 2010, 03:41:35 PM »
Yes, but on the other hand, I'm thinking about buying my lady a shorter, maybe a bit wider, really surf oriented shredding type SUB.  And she's never been on a board in her life, though she wants to, and she doesn't even like the waves.
Am I naughty?

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Gear Talk / Re: Quads v 2+1's In Narrow Tails
« on: November 20, 2010, 12:21:06 PM »
Why is it that a 2+1 has small fins in the front with a large trailing center fin and quads ussually have the opposite?  larger fins in the front with trailing fins that are smaller.


the 2+1 makes sense to me, a fin at the back that you can pivot on and sidebites forward that add grip with out being so large that they grab too much

But the larger fins forward on the quads?  i don't get it...  I can see it working if the desired result is to have a board that is less vertically pivoty and surfs flatter

Can anyone shed some light on this
Can't really shed some light on it, but I know that Starboards latest quad wave board for windsurfing has become a huge hit, and many pros are loving it.



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Random / Re: 4th ticket in 14 months in CA
« on: November 19, 2010, 02:58:50 PM »
Been flying commercial lately?
Full body scanners, total pat downs and ups.
I'm just waiting for somebody to get thru with some explosives up his ass, his ass explodes mid flight, then we all have to bend over, spread our cheeks, before we can get onboard.
That's next.   >:(

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Random / Re: The Great Crash & Burn Thread
« on: November 19, 2010, 02:13:22 PM »
This guy is just a tiny little bit better~


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Random / Re: The Great Crash & Burn Thread
« on: November 16, 2010, 10:02:48 PM »
But then there are the successes~



Note:  I noticed that this was already posted but I get no "DELETE" button so I can't delete it, only the "quote" and "modify" buttons which do me no good.

I detect a bug.

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SUP General / Re: Mavericks Opener
« on: November 15, 2010, 09:01:34 PM »
These boys charge for sure and in the cold cold water its probably way more difficult to take a hold down. No SUP? C'mon Jeremy where are you? Interesting how the whole wave priority rule is thrown out at Waimea and Mavericks. Seems pretty dangerous when multiple riders are on one of these giants at the same time. Guess its just accepted practice at these spots.
Actually, you've got a full suit on, hopefully a 4/5, so that adds to your warmth as well as your flotation, that helps.  I've had long hold downs in Maui windsurfing, and I remember that I wish I had on a full suit to help me get up faster, (I'm a Cali guy), warm water offers no ease w/o a wetsuit during a long hold down.
But that being said, a tombstone, is still a tombstone, not a good place to be, no matter where your are.
Erg,erg,erg,erg, I need air,,,,, now!

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Events / Re: Davenport-Santa Cruz SUP Contest photos
« on: November 15, 2010, 06:18:58 PM »
"insurance made us wear helmets!"
No reason for that remark, helmets are a good thing, nothing wrong with them, I've seen the results of not wearing one, very little future in the risk.

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SUP General / Re: Dick Van Dyke's life saved (on porpoise)
« on: November 11, 2010, 10:08:49 PM »
Sorry, but I'm having a hard time buying this, eventhough I like DVD.

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SUP General / Re: Andy Irons reportedly dead
« on: November 10, 2010, 08:11:41 AM »
This is pretty cool, for anyone who hasn't seen it yet~


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Random / Re: anyone else heat with wood???
« on: November 09, 2010, 06:30:05 PM »
Here in Cali. they won't even let you build an open firewood burning fireplace anymore in a new house, it has to be a zero clearance, closed system (doors on the FP).  But if you are willing to spend an extra $1000 for that system, you can actually burn firewood, woo-hoo, but it's still a closed system with an added catalitic converter that the smoke goes thru before entering the atomsphere.  That way we won't all die from wood burning fireplaces.
The fireplace dealer lobby fought hard against it, but failed.

California, the greenist, most broke state in the union, and in the process of circling the drain.  :-\

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Random / Re: anyone else heat with wood???
« on: November 08, 2010, 05:18:01 PM »
So, like, is this a new discovery for you?  Wood is the original heat, and it works good, just sayin.  :-\

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