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Practice paddling in surf stance or semi-surf stance and then try paddling for the wave in surf stance.  This way you are already in position when you catch the wave.  Then just practice, practice, practice. 

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Technique / Re: I want to ride a "true" shortboard...advice
« on: March 20, 2017, 12:17:36 PM »
I am going to have the chance to have a go on a 5'10 Plunder, 6'0 Hypto and a 6'4 Plunder at the end of the month.

Plunder looks like a fun board.  I'd be interested to hear how you like the 5-10 Plunder vs 6-0 Hypto.    6-4 Plunder might be the way to go for easier paddling and wave catching.

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Technique / Re: I want to ride a "true" shortboard...advice
« on: March 17, 2017, 08:21:01 AM »
I think a 5'10 would be ideal but then again maybe a 6'0 to have a little more foam??

For a prone Hypto I'd go with the 6'0" for a little extra foam.

I'd also recommend you take a look having a custom 85-90L Hypto SUP built.  If you are an experienced surfer and paddler you'll be amazed at how it surfs while still being quite stable.    Dimensions would be around 6-8 x 27 x 4 at 85L.

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Gear Talk / Re: Going Thin....the board not me
« on: March 08, 2017, 05:52:43 AM »
When you guys calculate the V/W ratio, do you include the weight of the board and/or add the wetsuit? 

I'm about 1.3 if I add the board.

Don't include the board weight.  Guild factor (GF) measures the ratio between the surfer’s body weight and the volume (in cubic liters) of a surfboard.    GF is just a reference point.  You can include wetsuit weight, just be consistent in how you calculate it.   


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Gear Talk / Re: Going Thin....the board not me
« on: March 07, 2017, 09:25:38 AM »
seems to be some discussion that a narrower board will go rail to rail much better and that 29" or lower is the way to go. i am considering the starboard 9" x 29" wide 139 liters.

any thoughts on going narrow, as opposed to going shorter or down in volume?
29" vs 31" will be a big improvement in maneuverability.  The shorter length will also help. 

At 215lbs on a 139L board you have a guild factor of 1.43L/kg.  You will see a big increase in surfing performance once you get below 1.3 L/kg (127L). 

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Classifieds / Re: Kaysen Buzz v2 Stub For Sale
« on: February 13, 2017, 12:14:54 PM »
I'd guess he was about 5-7 135lbs.  The board has a lot of volume for a short, narrow nose board and is very stable.   I had one guy who was close to 200lbs try it out.  He sunk it pretty good but was able to get up and paddling after a couple of tries.  He did not purchase the board but was really happy and surprised that he could paddle it.  It gave him a good reference point for how small he could go.

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Classifieds / Re: Kaysen Buzz v2 Stub For Sale
« on: February 12, 2017, 11:27:02 AM »
SOLD :-)

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The Shape Shack / Re: New addition on the way ... Lazy Boy SUP
« on: February 11, 2017, 02:08:29 PM »
I finally finished the sanding, marked the boxes and sent the board off for glassing. 

Final dims are approx 6-5.5" x 26.75" x 3.90" x 80L.

Basham's is going to do the glassing.  I stayed with my standard glassing schedule: 4 + 4 + 6 deck patch (3/4) on top and 4 + 4 on the bottom.  All standard E glass.    Glassing is going to be more expensive than originally expected but not much higher than Pure Glass (who I used for my last board).  With no color Basham's is approx $80 higher compared to Pure Glass.  Pure Glass charges more for color work so that difference becomes smaller as you add colors (I am going with 2 colors on top).   

Here's a final render of the board, let the wait begin...






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Looks great.  I'd love to try to stand up surf on it.  I previously considered getting a 9' x 23" x 3" x 79L Degree33 longboard to see how it would SUP but never pulled the trigger.   Let us know how it goes. 

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The Shape Shack / Re: New addition on the way ... Lazy Boy SUP
« on: February 06, 2017, 08:42:57 PM »
Thx for the data. It's been cool to watch you experiment.

I do like these shapes, I might have to play around a bit when it's time to cut a new one. You've definitely inspired me to go narrower for sure.

I think you called it on the extra volume up front. One of the behaviors I see in these shorter boards is a little dive in the nose when in a chop.

These things do look fun man.

Thanks.  After finish sanding the Lazy Boy is going to be closer to 80-81L, very close in volume to my Hypto.  It will be interesting to see how the ride and stability compares between the two different shapes with the same volume. 

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The Shape Shack / Re: New addition on the way ... Lazy Boy SUP
« on: February 04, 2017, 09:22:02 AM »
If you're happy with it then that's all that counts!  I see a bump in the deck profile view in your drawing.  Or is that by design?

You have a good eye but it isn't a "bump" and it is by design.   

The deck rocker is actually flat from 12" from tail to 12" to nose.  What you are noticing is that it isn't dead level.  It is slightly angled (by approx 0.5 degrees).  This allows me to "sneak" an extra 1-2L of foam around the mid/forward section of the board.  This helps with stability and paddling on a small SUP.   It also removes a little foam from the rear of the board which helps with responsiveness and ability to bury the rail.   

The following image helps illustrate:


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The Shape Shack / Re: New addition on the way ... Lazy Boy SUP
« on: February 03, 2017, 09:33:05 PM »
Now how is it you are calling this board a "Lazy Boy?"  At the miniscule dimensions of 6'6" x 26.77" x 3.96" x 82L, you would have to be anything but lazy to ride it.  Seems like a workout riding that board to me. 
Ha, yes I guess it is a little ironic.  It has the same outline and rocker as Lost's Lazy Boy so I kept the name.   

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The Shape Shack / Re: New addition on the way ... Lazy Boy SUP
« on: February 03, 2017, 05:09:06 PM »
Your deck rocker has a major whoop-dee-doo in it.  Smooth that curve out!   Otherwise, rad board.  8)

Not sure what you are referring to, please clarify.  It is pretty much the same deck rocker I have on all my boards.   I picked up the CNC'd blank today.  It looks sweet. 

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The Shape Shack / Re: New addition on the way ... Lazy Boy SUP
« on: February 03, 2017, 07:24:11 AM »
That's an interesting shape there. I have to ask, do you find paddling those sub 8' boards fun or are you mostly riding them for the surfing performance?

I ask because I don't have as much fun these days on my 7'4" board unless it's really smooth. It's not the side to side it's the nose to tail pitching that I find hard to deal with.

I'm wondering if I'm just cranky but I'm stuck with not loving paddling my short SUP and my 9' production SUP feels like a boat. I've been (perish the thought!) surfing more lately than paddle surfing.

Do you know or feel theoretically/aft pitching I'm talking about? And do these recent small boards have that? I suspect I should just suck it up and work on my paddling but I'm curious, you seem to be digging these smaller boards and I really want to myself.

I tired all different lengths and settled on 7'8 as the magic shortboard SUP length.

Over 7'8 they get slower, under, they loose range and ease of use.

For me that is the fun part of our hobby:  the search for that "magic" combination of outline, length, width, thickness and rocker that best suits the waves you ride and the type of surfing you want to do.

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The Shape Shack / Re: New addition on the way ... Lazy Boy SUP
« on: February 03, 2017, 07:13:13 AM »
That's an interesting shape there. I have to ask, do you find paddling those sub 8' boards fun or are you mostly riding them for the surfing performance?

I ask because I don't have as much fun these days on my 7'4" board unless it's really smooth. It's not the side to side it's the nose to tail pitching that I find hard to deal with.

I'm wondering if I'm just cranky but I'm stuck with not loving paddling my short SUP and my 9' production SUP feels like a boat. I've been (perish the thought!) surfing more lately than paddle surfing.

Do you know or feel theoretically/aft pitching I'm talking about? And do these recent small boards have that? I suspect I should just suck it up and work on my paddling but I'm curious, you seem to be digging these smaller boards and I really want to myself.

Yes, I find small boards fun.  Maximizing the fun factor is goal #1 since I don't get paid to surf :-)  I think it will stop being fun when I can no longer remain balanced on a board while standing in the line up.     

I understand what you are referring to with the pitching you describe.  This tends to happen on boards with a small "sweet spot".  Increasing width and thickness in the front third of the board will help in this regard.   

If you want to go smaller I'd recommend a board like my Hypto Krypto SUP.  Wide point is forward with more width and foam (thickness) in the nose area but the rear end has a pulled in rounded pin tail for performance.   I am amazed by how stable this board is for how small it is.     

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