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Random / Re: Delta Variant is here...
« on: August 13, 2021, 08:08:15 AM »
I thought that once you had your first dose, that the second dose was scheduled at that time. Are people just getting the first dose when they are at Walgreens for something, and then not scheduling the next one? They are just figuring to get it the next time they come by?

I had a conversation with my sister last night. I never knew she was unvaxxed until last night. She got CV in October 2020 and has no intention of getting the vax. She is stubborn and I would imagine would only get it if she had a gun to her head. She is a dental hygienist. Has been working in open mouths every day throughout the pandemic. In WA state anyone in the health field has to be vaccinated by sometime this fall or they have to be tested every other day, or fired. My sister told her bosses that under no circumstance would she do either and that she would quit.

Her boss gave about a 3 second effort to convince her otherwise, but knew it would not work. A seasoned Dental Hygienist is a cash cow, so he just decided they would let it run. It is not like there is a bench of them waiting to fill these roles.

That is just one of thousands of n=1s regarding this.

This public/private vaccine mandate and punishments will be a total flop. There has to be a better solution.

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Random / Re: Delta Variant is here...
« on: August 11, 2021, 01:31:37 PM »
My feeling is if you create a mandate and only 60% of the people mandated actually follow it (masks, vax etc). It is a garbage mandate to begin with.

It is necessary and overdue.  I have zero problem with presenting the unvaccinated and unmasked with the long list of things that they will not be allowed to do.  They are welcome to make their vaccination choice but they alone will live with it - or not.

Easy to have the righteous indignation Admin, but that plan won't work. The unvaxxed make up some portion (20 to 30%?) of the economy (healthcare, transportation, etc) and if you drop them out of it, what is next?  Governments and businesses would have to backtrack on the mandates, and it will be just another lurch and stumble that erodes trust.

I also agree that vax for access has been around a long time. And if this was a vaccine that was a one time, or once every 10 year deal, I can see this as part of the program. But this one is more like the flu shot, in that we are chasing a mutation all the time. Something like yellow fever is different, it is yellow fever, caused by mosquitoes. How it spreads and where it is located is well known and isolated. Much easier to sell.

What would work is for the unvaxxed to see their friends and neighbors dropping like flies (self preservation) or vax at gunpoint (forced). I don't like either option. An untenable mandate just makes liars out of good people.

Once Delta peaks and fades I am sure that versions CV Delta Pro Plus XL and CV Alpha 2019 Digitally Remastered for 2021 are already in the wind and this can go on ad infinitum. They just found a virus that was about 32,0000 years old in  Siberia.



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Random / Re: Delta Variant is here...
« on: August 11, 2021, 08:14:53 AM »
Over the last few days government agencies and private businesses have started to mandate vaccination for employees. The backlash has been interesting. For example there are nurses all over social media posting long messages about going from "heroes" of the pandemic to villains, because of their vax status. As I stated above earlier in this thread I only know a few unvaccinated people, 1 is a nurse, the other two had Covid.

I mean the government really doesn't have any other bullets left in the chamber regarding this (outside of the point of a spear), they certainly have botched the roll out and the advertising. The people who haven't got the shot who are in healthcare are likely not getting it because of a pretty specific reason, and so forcing them to vax, may be a bit tricky. I mean, you can't have nurses walk off the job if on the other hand we are saying that hospitals are overwhelmed.

My feeling is if you create a mandate and only 60% of the people mandated actually follow it (masks, vax etc). It is a garbage mandate to begin with. Try something else. Something like saying "when we reach 70% vax we will have no further restrictions, ever" and stick to it. The problem is no one really believes them on any account.

Now we are circling back towards masks and lockdowns which have done little good, at great cost (dividing our society). When a simple free vaccine is available everywhere.

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Random / Re: Delta Variant is here...
« on: July 30, 2021, 09:46:28 AM »
We all manage to forget that a majority of Americans thought peace with the Nazis was acceptable and that we shouldn't intervene in World War Two.
Lest someone think the US were composed of Nazi sympathizers, it's important to know that the US was going through an isolationist period after the crash of '29 when those polls were taken.  And although as a nation, along with the rest of the free world, we should have known better, the fact is, as a group we didn't.  The news from Europe didn't penetrate, we were too busy sorting out domestic issues.  By the time the evidence was better presented, we were in denial.  Sounds a little too damned familiar for sure.

From the history I've read, the US had plenty of Nazi sympathizers. I will never know enough to be able to separate the wheat from the chaff of US history, so I mostly just look at numbers. I think if I were a pollster I'd think even less of the average run of humanity.

You say that you mostly look at the numbers, but the polls don't tell us what percentage of the US population were Nazi sympathizers in 1939.  So, your statement that the US had plenty of Nazi sympathizers is really based on inference.  (admittedly, you might be right depending on how you characterize "plenty")

I happen to think most Americans and especially those of the the WWII generation are/were pretty good people overall.

You're a marketing guy, what would you have done/or do differently to sell the vaccine?  And, I don't want to hear "you can't fix stupid"...

Having watched the gov't lie, threaten, cajole, lurch, and stumble I know what doesn't work. The NPIs have only driven a wedge in our society.

I'm not a marketing guy, but I think the best way would have been brutal honesty:

"Covid is here, the only way to get past it is through - you will likely not be able to avoid it. So get vaccinated because we cannot stop this thing and the vaccines reduce the chances of you getting seriously sick."

That does two things, 1- eliminates the belief that we can "squash" the virus, because one of the things driving society apart is our hubris that we can personally effect the outcome (if we all just bla, bla bla).  and 2 -lets people know they will probably get it and thus their health choice is important.

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Random / Re: Delta Variant is here...
« on: July 29, 2021, 01:34:26 PM »
I believe the average county worker is someone who's job is to keep their job. Which means unblinkingly following chain of command. I have many friends who work for the government, smart people who know exactly how to keep their jobs.

My point all along is that I don't want anyone interfering with my and my family's health decisions, because a society is far too complex for blanket mandates and recommendations to ever work.

Average employee in the CDC and FDA has one primary goal and it is the continuance of the CDC and FDA with their jobs intact.

I am seeing a lot of this vaccines or negative tests required to be at work stuff coming out. I'm into it, I can treat my employees like cattle. Forcing them to get shots, and next I can get them on Ritalin, or sudafeds, whatever it takes to increase production.

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Random / Re: Delta Variant is here...
« on: July 29, 2021, 09:15:18 AM »
Great post Pbill.

The "governing" regarding this pandemic has just been high ranking bureaucrats lurching around from pillar to post. Walk into your average county health department. Look around at the people and have a conversation with a couple of them and then ask yourself the question: "Do I want these people to have more control of my life?"

The media has done a great job on a lot of people regarding this vaccine.  Tom's attitude that the unvaccinated are nothing but idiotic disease ridden vermin, is pretty pervasive.

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Random / Re: Delta Variant is here...
« on: July 28, 2021, 09:56:43 AM »
Apt post Pono bill.

16% of Americans smoke, 67% are overweight or obese. 40% did not vote. There is no amount of "outreach" that is going to educate an apathetic society. Humans and even more Americans live by two simple words "me first". Things that don't work: "you'll kill grandma", "do it for your neighbor", or even "you will die if you don't get this vaccine." Everyone who buys those has the vaccine in them already. Calling the unvacc'd disease ridden vermin, which is basically the media's other tactic is divisive and pointless, and also doesn't work.

Now we have the re-up on the masks, which removes the best carrot from the vaccine (no mask). WTF? Perfect chance to double down on vaccines effectiveness and they pulled the rug out. Especially because the Delta variant is going to start to recede in some regions pretty quickly (See India, UK), they could have used that to an advantage.

"Outreach" is just jobs for bureaucrats. Unless the outreach is door to door with a needle and a spear (a nurse and a sheriff), it has a zero effect.

I would bet that the unvacc'd are a pretty fractured political block. I only have my n=1 to go by, but most people who aren't getting vacc'd are not that political, they just don't care.




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Random / Re: Delta Variant is here...
« on: July 26, 2021, 10:59:16 AM »
The vaccine thing is weird. I have an aunt who is an ER nurse. She is unbearably liberal, literally you can be looking at a beautiful sunset and she will tell you it is only beautiful, because Trump lost. Her WIFI name is "McConnel=Satan".

She is unvaccinated. She flatly says, it is because of the FDA's EUA. Once FDA gives standing approval she will take it, I would imagine she is in the minority of anti-vaxxers. I do have some friends who are true anti-vaxxers. They are just hippies and rely on plants, roots and herbs, yoga and other natural methods for everything.

Other people I know who haven't gotten vaccinated, are mostly because they can't be bothered. Again and again the US Gov't cannot seem to understand human nature. They get called anti-vaxxers, when in reality they just don't care that much, because they are not afraid of Covid. The argument about "what if you infect someone who is high risk" doesn't rate for them. They probably haven't called their grandma in 6 months, let alone seen her. These people are far more common than a passionate anti-vaxxer. We only hear about the anti's because they make noise.

I think social media bubble makes it seem like the anti-vaxxers are a bunch of Trump loving hicks. Most people I know (because of where I live) are conservatives and all got vaccinated. I think if they would have branded it "Covid Shots" the same as "Flu Shots" they could have gotten a lot more activity. Does the government think we can overcome selfishness and apathy, via peer pressure?

IMO "strongly recommended" is far more powerful a tool than "mandated". I think it makes for better and more productive conversations and maintains free will. Mandates create sides-picking.

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General Discussion / Re: Reef Rash leads to Illness
« on: July 21, 2021, 11:09:31 AM »
Hoping for my final report on this.

Went to Dr again, feeling much better but the rash was still there. He stated that the infection looked like it was gone and I can correlate the headaches and fevers had stopped. The rash that showed the infection remains. He thought it likely that the heavy antibiotics could have been contributing to the rash, so I stopped them and now am on a steroid to combat the rash. Otherwise I am back to normal.

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General Discussion / Re: Reef Rash leads to Illness
« on: July 15, 2021, 08:53:46 AM »
The rash finally started cooling off last night.

My wife was pretty vigilant about the injury administering to the wound each night in Maui. There was no way I was going to not be in the water, so I accept my responsibility in my infection. As stated I didn't get sick until over 10 days after the cut, when I was wake surfing.

I stated the lake was clean, but I actually have two projects on that lake right now and a few minutes ago my designer asked me "How many failed septic leach fields do you think there are on that lake?" Of course every single one of them is sited upslope from the lake. Realistically with the age of the development the answer is probably about 50% failure based on current standards.

Definitely could be coral, but bacteria is everywhere.

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General Discussion / Re: Reef Rash leads to Illness
« on: July 14, 2021, 10:39:53 AM »
Well shit!

I guess I better bring a book.

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General Discussion / Re: Reef Rash leads to Illness
« on: July 14, 2021, 08:27:51 AM »
Every night we sat around the lanai, drank cocktails and put peroxide on everyone's wounds. I heard from my pharmacist buddy who told me that he got blood poisoning from the same lake when he had a baseball slide wound.

Anyway the antibiotic I am on is not doing anything so far. I will be going back to Dr. today.


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General Discussion / Reef Rash leads to Illness
« on: July 13, 2021, 09:50:36 AM »
Just got back from Maui last Thursday. Had 5 days of solid south swell, I pushed myself well past my comfort limits and had a blast.

On one of the smaller days early in the week we were at Launiopoko. Anyone who has been there knows there is a really shallow section in front of the rock pool. I had been surfing (prone) out at the main peak and was cruising back in to the beach. I caught a rail and did the starfish flop, but unfortunately landed directly on a coral head, it must have only been about 10" underwater. Anyone who has surfed there knows what these look like.

Anyway, had a standard reef rash in the area (about 2" by 3"). I never could really keep a bandage on it because I was surfing every day. Never bothered me the rest of the trip. On Saturday we went wake surfing on a lake (fairly clean lake as far as lakes go). About mid way through the day I started getting feverish, but persevered through the after party. Sunday I had to manage my fever with Ibuprofen, but thought it was just a standard cold. Yesterday (Monday) I was walking scorer in my daughters golf tournament and my back was itching all day. After I had my daughter look at it and basically I have a seething rash that is spreading from the wound in whorls.

Went to urgent care and they told me it looked like bacterial blood poisoning and now I am on antibiotics. Fingers crossed that they work.

Anyone else had this? What medicine did you use?

I don't think I could have done much different (except not surfing after it happened to let it heal up), I surfed a week after the injury and treated it at night before bed. The wound had hardened over before the wake surfing, so I'm not sure what caused the bacteria infection.


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SUP General / Re: Surfboards (Longboards)
« on: June 27, 2021, 02:14:02 PM »
Congrats NW. Great color. Looking forward to your ride report.

Along this line I came across an Infinity Cluster 9-6 basically new, and was able to buy for $500 last week. Took it out this morning to 4’ at 11s and offshore wind. Had it set up with 5” outside fins and a 6” center. I read that they sell it with a 4” center fin.

Love at first drop with this board. I’m a big guy and I could pump off the tail easily rolling rail to rail. 3rd wave I walked up to the nose on the inside section, so easy and I could feel the fins from the nose.  Last wave of the day I caught a set wave (regular going right) big drop, did a cut back, some power wiggles, got to the nose and pumped through the inside section from the front. Then wave tripped over a sand spit and gave me one last shoulder right to the beach. Left me giggling . Board really carried momentum well.

I was so stoked I drove straight to the surf shop and bought a bag for it. Taking it to Maui tomorrow  for 10 days of south swell on the west side.


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Random / Re: The perfect steak?
« on: June 20, 2021, 09:06:37 AM »
Outside I use a Cuisinart XL 360 (steel top) and melt the butter in a metal bowl while the steaks are cooking. I tend to pull them off at about 118 degrees and wrap the pile of steaks in foil to finish. I use a heat gun to check the flat top for temp. My crust is legendary (in my own mind).

Inside cast iron and oven as shown 100% of the time.

Had a ribeye last night at a farm to table restaurant. Hands down my favorite cut, never disappoints.

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