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General Discussion / The Are GoPros GOOD or BAD poll
« on: March 30, 2015, 11:45:49 AM »

General Discussion / The DO SHARKS ATTACK US? poll
« on: March 26, 2015, 10:53:38 PM »
This should settle it.

General Discussion / T-shirt idea
« on: March 22, 2015, 09:20:24 PM »


Random / Seems like this could work for standup
« on: February 27, 2015, 06:51:34 PM »

SUP Advocacy / no pfds required at Gorge Paddle Challenge
« on: August 25, 2014, 06:41:04 PM »
At last weekend's Naish Gorge Paddle Challenge in Hood River, the rules stated that pfds were NOT required during any of the races, but that state law still required them outside of the races.  I assume the organizers used some sort of exemption (maybe due to having safety boats, etc.) and got confirmation from the authorities that that was acceptable.  I'm sure they didn't just make the rule without confirmation from authorities--too much risk. 

I still think that race boards meet the Coast Guard definition of "racing vessels" and are exempt from needing pfds, but don't know if Oregon's rules have that exemption--or even if they do, if the local authorities would agree.   

In any case, it's the first time I've ever seen a race specifically say they WEREN'T needed, instead of that they were.  And it certainly was nice, since everyone used hydration packs due to the heat (which contribute a lot more to life safety in heat than a pfd).  So it seems like great news.  Every race should find out what they did and repeat it.

Random / Important lecture for guys
« on: July 31, 2014, 04:52:59 PM »
Totally unrelated to SUP, but important scientific knowledge to have...

Downwind and Racing / dave kalama's ideas for racing inflatables
« on: July 27, 2014, 02:22:55 PM »

Interesting, thoughtful perspectives whether you ultimately agree with the idea or not:

General Discussion / gorgebob also made the mags
« on: May 10, 2014, 01:55:55 PM »
Seeing UKRiverSurfer's post about being in a magazine reminded me that there's also a nice write-up about Gorge Performance (gorgebob's shop, and my neighbor) in the latest Standup Paddle Magazine.  It includes a bit about paddling in Portland, also.

General Discussion / Is Naish hiding in the hole it dug for itself?
« on: March 18, 2014, 11:51:56 PM »
This could have gone on the SUPAA rule thread, but I thought it deserves its own.  I noticed a few days ago that some of Naish's own boards are too light to be legal under the new SUPAA board rules.  At the same time, Naish is one of the companies that according to SUPAA created and supports the rules.  That means Naish is selling race boards to people with its right hand while its left hand is making those boards illegal to race.
I wrote to Naish about this on its facebook page.  Naish's "response" was to take my post down almost immediately, with no response to me publicly or privately.  That's disappointing, because as everyone knows I'm a big Naish fan.  But it's not surprising, because I don't know how Naish can possibly answer my letter without looking bad.  If I ever get a response, I'll post it.  In the meantime, does anyone know anyone at Naish I could write to directly?

I'm not creating this problem for Naish.  Naish (along with SUPAA) created it for itself.  I'm only informing them about it.  Hiding isn't going to solve it for Naish.

Here's the letter Naish removed:

I'm a huge Naish fan--have 2 14' Glides and a 14' Javelin.  I love the boards, and recommend Naish constantly.  I've been eyeing the 14' LE as my next board.  However, my loyalty just took a hit when I found out Naish has been involved in supporting the SUPAA's new, stupid board limits.  Of course you have the right to support whatever you want.  But what you don't have the right to do is to support SUPAA's board limits on the one hand, while on the other, offer on your website and through your dealers Naish boards (the 12-6 and 14' LEs) that would be illegal under the new rules, without disclosing that to your loyal customers. 

I understand the SUPAA rules will "grandfather" current boards until 2016, and that many elite racers replace their boards each year anyway.  But when people like me spend $3k or $4k on a board, we expect to be able to race it for more than 2 years, or at least to be able to sell it to someone else who can race it.  But what's the resale value on a board made specifically for racing that's illegal to race?  Nothing.  And don't tell me (as the SUPAA does) that the SUPAA rules still allow me to race a 12-6 or 14' Naish LE in 2016 or after as long as I do it in the unlimited division!

When you sell expensive boards with one hand, while with the other hand you are supporting rules that make those same boards worthless in two years, and not disclosing that, you're being dishonest.  What a great way to lose loyal customers!  You should either oppose the rules, or add a disclaimer to your website, and notify all your dealers and customers, that your LE boards will be illegal to race under the rules you are supporting, and worthless upon resale.

Personally, I hope you'll change your mind about the rules.  The idea that SUP racing will be ruined by boards like the LEs is ludicrous.  The skill level is SUP is evolving so rapidly that (normal-sized) people are already using the 23" 14' LEs for downwinding.   Five years ago, that would have been thought impossible.  For light paddlers in flatwater (and many women are far, far lighter than men racing LEs successfully today) anything OVER 23" may soon seem as boatlike as yesterday's 27" or 28" race boards seem today.  Certainly 110-lb. women shouldn't be limited to 23" min. boards when 200-lb. men are racing on 24's. 

It is shortsighted for Naish to support rules that will force those paddlers onto boards that are too wide for them, and it is even worse for Naish to be selling boards it's simultaneously working (through the SUPAA) to make illegal. 

Gear Talk / Ideal length for 14' board?
« on: February 07, 2014, 11:22:19 AM »
What is the best length for a 14' board?  And why?

Gear Talk / Advice needed---10’6" Starboard Drive versus Boga Mahina?
« on: January 28, 2014, 09:12:12 PM »
(A friend of mine asked me to post this for him while he's waiting to get registered so he can post):

Hi folks, I’m looking for a bit of SUP buying advice.  I’m 5’8", 145 lbs.  I’ve paddled around a dozen times and feel fairly comfortable on a board, so want something that isn’t a “true beginner”, but rather something I can grow into and not have to replace immediately.  I will be doing mostly cruising/touring in the ocean off of La Jolla, but would also like to learn a bit of surfing in small waves.  Because of my storage situation, I am limited to no more than 10’6” length.

I’ve narrowed it down to two boards that are available from two different local shops in the area:

1) 2013 Starboard Drive AST White (no deck pad)
2) 2013 Boga Mahina (orange with bamboo)

Both are 10’6” and similar in weight and other specifications.  Both are comparable in price.  The Boga is slightly thicker and has more volume. Both get good reviews, though clearly the Starboard has been around longer and is better known.  Aesthetically, the Boga is a very pretty board!  It also seems to be a slightly better buy, coming equipped with a deck pad and both single and side fins included (the Starboard Drive White does not include side fins or a deck pad).

Does anyone have advice on how these two boards compare?  Which would glide better for cruising versus surfing?  Is one a “better” or newer design over the other?  I  was able to demo the Drive on flat water and liked it, though I’m not at the level where I can really judge performance and there was nothing to compare it to at the time.  I would love to demo the Mahina as well to know for sure, but have not found where I can do this (does anyone know of a place in the San Diego area?).

Thanks much in advance!

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