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Random / Re: AC 75 boats, flaps and footage - Unreal

« on: January 26, 2021, 04:43:52 PM »

Interesting discussions on the foil rules and the changes INEOS has made.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Gorge Question

« on: November 18, 2020, 09:23:38 PM »

Gorge map:  https://cgw2.org/local-info/

I know Tri-Cities and Walla-Walla sailors also sail at Port Kelly

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Upwind on a SUP with a Wing

« on: September 22, 2019, 09:06:10 AM »

After a number of sessions I have been able to sail upwind with my Naish 4 meter wing on an 11'3" surfboard-style SUP board, with a single fin.  Mostly I have been winging in 6 to 12 mph. I've been taking a paddle with me to get back upwind to my small beach - at first necessary, and now for insurance for drifting downwind. SUP boards drift downwind quickly, so you need to stay on top of it. The higher wind in this range is easier as it keeps drive in the wing.  I haven't gone yet in higher wind, need to build more confidence I can sail home.

1) Fin size may help, I did put a larger fin on, but still could not stay upwind.

2) I also added a (temporary) center fin, and that helped, but not really enough.  I got one of these, cut some slots in the base and attached it to the board with some straps.  Dorky for sure.  Or you could glue it on.

3) Getting the wing in the right position helped the most, and I was able to finally point upwind. More so with the center fin, but also without it.  This video was the key for me: 

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: How to Wingfoil videos

« on: September 11, 2019, 11:49:22 AM »

From Ozone Kites  - WASP wing

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: WingSUP without a foil

« on: August 19, 2019, 05:00:14 PM »

Fishman, I had the same thought and put a 34cm True Aims Slalom Pointer fin on today.  Hard to say how much difference it made as I'm doing different things with body and wing position too.  When windsurfing I can point pretty high without a centerboard, but the leverage with an attached mast and sail is pretty different.  And years of practice.

Bill, thanks for this, I'm taking notes. That gives me something to work on.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: WingSUP without a foil

« on: August 19, 2019, 02:37:12 PM »

Has anyone else been flying a wing with a plain-old-SUP board?  If you haven't tried it yet, I'd strongly suggest you have a plan for getting back to your start as blowing downwind seems to be a common problem.

I've been out a several times, gaining more control, but still not able to stay upwind.  I've also practiced flying the wing from a dock a few times, and I think that helps.

To get past the downwind problem, I've been paddling upwind to start.  I clip the center handle of the inflated wing to the handle of my SUP board so the wing rests on the board about a foot behind my feet.  It stays there just fine when paddling straight up wind.

This morning I measured the wind at 10 gusting to 16 mph, and I paddled 3/4 mile upwind to start sailing.  That's about as much wind as I want paddle against.  But I've found it easy to fly the wing in that wind, and you're just starting to feel some power in the wing.

When flying the wing, I've had best luck standing behind the handle, and weighting the upwind rail, like in the Naish photo below.   But if I have the wing out front and sheeting the back hand down, that makes me go further off the wind.  If I rotate so it feels like the wing is behind me, I can keep the board pointed higher.  But that's a awkward feeling position, and the wing seems less stable there.

If anyone is having better success, let us know what is working for you.  I'm particularly interested in the board and wing position.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Shared Knowledge for beginners

« on: July 13, 2019, 08:14:54 AM »

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: WingSUP without a foil

« on: June 30, 2019, 04:05:44 PM »

Great thread, Admin. I hope we can all help each other out.

Day one was less than successful.

I have the Naish Wingsurfer, Setup is so quick and easy - nothing compared to rigging a windsurf sail.

I've been windsurfing for many, many years on everything from long boards to slalom boards.  I don't have a foil (yet).  I figured 'who needs centerboard'?   Well, I guess I go. 

I took a 11' 3" surfboard SUP with a single fin.  Went to a park on Lake Washington (Seattle) with a very long side shore breach. Wind was at most 10kt, usually less.  But I don't think more wind would have helped - at least not yet.

The wing is very easy to fly - just pick it up and it hovers easily is just about any position with one hand.  And it's easy to move from the front handle to the strut, and up and down the strut.

This is where things didn't go as planned.  When I get up on the board, wing flying, it immediately turns downwind.  Of course when that happens the apparent wind goes to near zero, and wing isn't supplying much turning force.  I tried kneeling and standing.

So I spent a couple of hours blowing downwind, and walking back upwind. I didn't get enough speed to rail the board, and didn't find a position for the wing to counter the wind and waves pushing the nose of the board downwind.  I tired pumping the wing, but didn't find anything that worked yet. 

Next time I'm going to take my Kona One board and put the daggerboard down.  I would have used it today, but it's not currently at home.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: windwing timing and availability

« on: June 29, 2019, 09:39:19 AM »

I got on a wait list at Big Winds, and then put in a deposit when they started taking orders. I think TJ said they got just 4 of the teal colored wings in this shipment.  I was surprised when he called, as I had checked in a couple weeks ago and was told there were manufacturing delays and it would probably be later in July.

Doug

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: windwing timing and availability

« on: June 28, 2019, 04:24:43 PM »

  So this happened today... now just need to add wind. I'll be starting out just learning to fly it on a big sup board.

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SUP General / Re: Worst Wipeout Ever In One Foot Surf

« on: December 19, 2017, 05:08:08 PM »

I'm guessing Soloshot can't tell when it's subject is in distress...

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Random / Re: Level 4 Autonomy

« on: November 08, 2017, 04:42:48 PM »

Well, this is timely.  Self-driving bus in Las Vegas crashes 2 hours after it was launched.   

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/11/08/self-operating-shuttle-bus-crashes-after-las-vegas-launch/

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Gear Talk / Re: SUPs on roof rack for high roof van, any tips?

« on: September 22, 2017, 12:27:51 PM »

Just for fun, here are a couple modified ladder rack solutions.

Kargo Master Ladder Rack modified for a surf ski


Gentilli Harrier 2000 ladder rack modified for an OC1
http://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/diys-modifications/26082-oc1-canoe-rack.html

Hope this photo link works:
http://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25338&d=1462152609

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SUP General / Re: How did you learn to swim?

« on: August 02, 2017, 08:01:03 PM »

This is why I gave myself a 3, and maybe I was too generous at that. 

Woman swim length of Flathead Lake and back - 56 miles in 40 hours.  "On Sunday, huge swells began to form, battering the swimmers and making the water so choppy that their support crew became sick and had to be replaced."

She also swam the 55 miles in Lake Chelan in 2011.

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SUP General / Re: How did you learn to swim?

« on: July 30, 2017, 06:15:26 PM »

I also started very young, but don't remember much about it.  It was probably a YMCA summer program.  Back then, we went to the beach a lot, and I did a some body surfing.  Swam a mile in open water at a Sea Scout camp. 

In addition to SUP, I've windsurfed since 1979, and can swim far and fast enough to catch my board when it gets away in high wind crashes.  My usual windsurf spot is a lake, 1 mile across shore to shore, 5 miles upwind/downwind, and the water is cold.  These days, swimming in unassisted from the middle would be a challenge, but with my impact vest, I'm sure I could stay afloat long enough to get somewhere.

I've never done laps in a pool, but I do get some additional swimming practice in the lakes in the summer.

Open water, I'd give myself about a 3.