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SUP General / Re: Merry Christmas

« on: December 25, 2018, 09:27:15 AM »

Merry Christmas...Happy Holidays...& Strong Strokes from our ohana to you and yours...

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SUP General / Re: Kai's aeirial at Mavericks.

« on: December 21, 2018, 02:56:47 PM »

Wow. Andrea is tougher than boiled parrot in her sports but so nice in person that it's hard to connect the dots.

Yes...Andrea is a fantastic multi-sport athlete...first responder...love of dogs and horses...great human...she's been one of Deb's inspirations...

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SUP General / Re: Kai's aeirial at Mavericks.

« on: December 21, 2018, 02:12:58 PM »

I think that was actually 2016 Wardog. But that fall was much more "gentle" than the one that ripped up leg muscles when she did a freefall off the lip. She was hobbling around in a cast for many months. I can't find the video. That was one of the ugliest freefalls I've seen.

Yes...I know...the most recent vid clip from the November contest, that I found when I posted that, was not very clear...but, Greg's showed the consequence(s) of her commitment...here it is...pretty gnarly...a pretty good still popped up on my Instagram feed but I couldn't find it...

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Gear Talk / Re: BigBoy 12' Sunova Search

« on: December 20, 2018, 04:26:43 PM »

I never really considered the One World until just now. I didn't know there was an 11'11".  I wonder how it compares to the Search 12'.

I definitely want to get a 12 footer at some point, not as an all around board but purely for surfing. Whatever I get it will probably have to be a custom.

So far, the Search, Bump Surfer and now the One World are the only boards that I know of that come close to the shape I'm looking for.

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Aloha Badger,
We've been building the 11'11" One World Surfari for quite a while now...
It captures elements of the doors that the iconic 11'11" "Big Red"  (that I helped design with Sean Ordonez) opened during the early days of modern standup...but, faster rocker and big wave capable...etc...

I actually designed a 13'er with SO that we built here in SB...along with a 14' "channel crosser"...but, after taking the 13'er out in big offshore reef waves...I decided that it was too big, after having my leg almost ripped out of it's socket and being rag dolled for a 1/2 mile down the coast while it was tomb stoning...shivers...so, now it hangs in my shop...

Anyways...sounds like you have some ideas that would necessitate a custom...

https://supsports.com/standup-paddle-boards/california-custom-series/

As far as comparison to other boards in the genre...
Here's a few One World Surfari design graphics below of an 11'11" x 27" x 4.5" @ 166.22 liters that I have worked on for a client that may help you...

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SUP General / Re: Kai's aeirial at Mavericks.

« on: December 20, 2018, 02:02:57 PM »

Yes...the gals have really stepped up their game in the big wave arena...
My buddy, Greg Huglin, filmed this HD slomo wipeout at 240 fps of Andrea Moller on that last Jaws swell...OUCH!!!

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SUP General / Re: Kai's aeirial at Mavericks.

« on: December 20, 2018, 12:23:58 PM »

Kai can prone surf big waves with the best of them...
Not to take away anything from Billy Kemper's WSL win at Jaws Challenge last month...but, there are lots of people that think Kai won the event...check out the vid comments and elsewhere on the internet...etc...regardless, it could have gone either way...

Check out the barrel ride at 1:42...



In this interview Kai states how all of the other water sports that he is involved in (insert long list), prepared him for those huge waves and that huge air drop at Jaws...and, he's not done in the big wave aerial department...



https://www.facebook.com/WSL/videos/wow-kai-lenny/295399197746355/

Phenomenal big wave riding...the stuff surfing cartoons used to be about...;-)

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Gear Talk / Re: BigBoy 12' Sunova Search

« on: December 20, 2018, 09:59:13 AM »

Aloha Night Wing,
Your 11'1" One World is definitely in the same genre of "coastal cruiser"...as is it's bigger brother, the 11'11" One World Surfari...fast glider that catches everything from ankle biters to macking 25'+...also, able to be competitively raced to podium finishes in rough river and flatwater conditions as Mo Freitas proved...;-)

https://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php/topic,23971.0.html

https://supsports.com/standup-paddle-boards/one-world-series/

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SUP General / Re: Kai's aeirial at Mavericks.

« on: December 20, 2018, 09:46:10 AM »

Kai has definitely proved that he is in the top league of multi-sport waterman on the planet...mind blowing performances...he's always been SUPer stoked and humble...it's been really fun to watch his progress...definitely a great subject for a feature film...

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Gear Talk / Re: Deck Pads on custom SUP

« on: December 14, 2018, 09:00:38 AM »

After removing a bubbled up 6 year old pad, I did essentially what Tall Dude does.  I used a Hydroturf sheet cut into a big comfortable standing area with a slightly more aggressive hexagonal pattern toward the tail.  This pad is just the brushed finish but it gives great traction with the hexes in back and it's luxuriously comfortable both surfing and cruising.  I'd do it to all my boards if I wasn't so cheap, lazy, etc...

Aloha Jim,
The hard part is getting the old pad off...looks like a nice job...but, seems like the pads that I have customized with multiple pieces end up being little sand traps...
We have lots of pads in stock that help to make a re-pad job easier...including a newer stock version of the OEM pad that originally came with your board...

Our stock 8 piece SUP pad set is lightweight…just 1.5# for 76″ x 26″ of coverage…closed cell EVA foam…non-H20 absorbing…highest quality 3M 9786 peel & stick adhesive…several layout options…comfortable…diamond grip traction…black…embossed PVC logo…we also have an optional stomper tail piece with integrated ramp on the way...

https://supsports.com/stoked/sup-deck-pad-options

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Gear Talk / Re: Concept Sunova: Big Boy Bombora

« on: December 14, 2018, 08:49:08 AM »

Aloha NW,
Here's a slightly less leisurely way to surf the One World...switchfoot at a shark infested offshore reef...;-)

Gotta say, that top pic makes me hungry.  Beautiful wave!

Aloha Randy,
Big kamikaze style points to wet the appetite...;-)

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Gear Talk / Re: My 12 ft SUP feels tracky with my quad fins

« on: December 12, 2018, 01:39:54 PM »

I like quads because they are fast out of the gate...and, go even faster with rider response...also, because you can do mid-face turns and have the confidence of the grab from two inside sidebiters...great performance in hollow waves...they suck in closer to the face...etc...

They also feel like an extension of the twin-fins that I rode as a kid...my surfboard quiver is split between thruster and quad...but, I also rode Bonzers and even a 5 fin...long before quads became a thang...

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Gear Talk / Re: Smaller Surf SUPs for Bigger Guys

« on: December 10, 2018, 08:28:55 PM »

Aloha betteryeti,
We have built scores of boards for bigger guys who know how to surf since you resurrected this almost 4 year old thread...

A big Hammer would be a no-brainer...

https://blog.surfingsports.com/2018/09/big-hammer-sups.html

Hammer SUP surfing gallery...

https://supsports.com/stoked/hammer-sup-surfing/

https://supsports.com/standup-paddle-boards/hammer-series/

For example, I could knock 2' off your current length...getting it down to 10'6" length and still keeping your current 245 liters...of course, all of the dims are tweakable...

I have a client named Big Will who is 6'5" 265#...and, he rips on my 9'5" x 33" Hammer at 188 liters...also, my 10'3" x 33" Mahalo at 185 liters...

If you want to go with a round pin, we built a killer 10'6" x 33.5" Mahalo at 220 liters for Matt that weighed in at 23#...

https://supsports.com/standup-paddle-boards/mahalo-series/

Closer L@@K at Mahalo design elements...

https://supsports.com/stoked/mahalo-sup-design/

I've also designed a new Shaka NR (Nose Rider) Squash model...for example, we could build a 10'8" x 34.5" x 5.2" at 236.46 liters...

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Gear Talk / Re: My 12 ft SUP feels tracky with my quad fins

« on: December 10, 2018, 09:40:56 AM »

Aloha bluemarlin04,
Agree...sounds like symptoms of being over-finned...combo of too much surface area and stiffness...I still think that there is a quad solution for your board...

I design my side fins with flex in the tips and fast foils...and, comparatively under-finned on my wave riding SUPs compared to most guy's fin setups on their prone boards...
They are essential for the offshore reef breaks that I surf, that are totally choked off with kelp...so, singles are a non-starter at these spots...

I'm definitely not against singles...I grew up surfing singles in the Free Ride days...snapped a triple stringer Diffenderfer in Humboldt...but, still have my beloved Brewer gun that I rode on the North Shore, Hanalei, Humboldt, and Puerto...etc...hanging in my shop...and, have manufactured 1000's of my single fin designs...SUP and windsurfing...had a couple of the top guys in the world using them...Kevin Pritchard...Zane Schweitzer...etc...

I also have extensive quivers of single fin wave riding sailboards...but, also tri-fins and quad...so, not stuck with any one design dogma...

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Gear Talk / Re: My 12 ft SUP feels tracky with my quad fins

« on: December 10, 2018, 07:26:41 AM »

Form my direct observations...in the several decades that I have been involved in fin and board design...more often than not, a rider's fin decision is ultimately driven by personal preference and biases...thus, the multitudes of choices...

For the record, Jeff Clarke was an early proponent of quad fin guns at Mavericks...and, Parmenter is perhaps best known for his Widowmaker (2 + 1) guns...as well as his flip flops after publishing long winded diatribes about commercialization of surfing...foreign imports of surfboards and how it's decimated the US surfboard industry...and, an apology for ever being involved in the SUP industry...etc...

Again, when it comes to the best big wave surfers in the world choosing equipment to paddle into the planet's biggest waves...the fact remains that they overwhelmingly choose quad fin guns...they have become the standard...nearly every rider in some contests utilizes them...and, they don't make that life threatening choice because they are slower...especially, paddling in at open ocean reef breaks like Cortes Bank...etc...

Chris Christenson makes big wave paddle-in guns for many of the top guys...including Greg Long, John John Florence, Mark Healey, Nathan Florence (JJF's bro), Billy Kemper...etc...guys that are consistently winning the big wave surfing contests around the world...

https://www.surfer.com/blogs/design-forum/shaped-by-waves/#7c975f060d

What strengths do you feel like are unique to the design?

It has a real crazy beak nose on it because it carries the thickness all the way up into the nose. Pyzel had to shave a bit off from the nose, because it's so thick up there, and I think that makes it when you're paddling that you get on this plane when you get to a certain speed or when you're paddling for a wave. The board is just going. You can't really stop it once it starts. It gets this crazy momentum because of that thickness in the front.

[We then hit up Jon Pyzel for the design details, conditions best suited for the board, and more.]

What shape is Nathan on in the photo?

Nathan was riding a 10'4" x 20.75 x 3.63 quad called the Padillac.

What’s the background on this particular shape?

It’s a board that I developed with Mark Healey's feedback and have been refining for the past five years; he actually came up with the name, because it paddles so fast. Since then, Mark went on to win the XXL Paddle-In Wave Of The Winter, John won the Eddie, and Billy Kemper won the Jaws event two years in a row- all on the Padillac.

https://www.pyzelsurf.com.au/blog/john-johns-eddie-aikau-board/

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Gear Talk / Re: My 12 ft SUP feels tracky with my quad fins

« on: December 09, 2018, 05:05:30 PM »

The trend in big wave paddle-in surfing is shorter and quad...the prone paddle-in guys are taking off right under the lip...not way out on the shoulder...
On many big wave ledges there really is no advantage to try to catch the wave way outside before it breaks...it breaks where it breaks...and, it requires split second decision making and wave judgement...

They are generating plenty of speed on their quad guns while increasing positioning and maneuverability on the wave face...

2014: At the inaugural ASP Big Wave Tour event held at Pico Alto, Peru, 99% of all competitors ride four-fin gun designs. Photo: Robbo/ASP

https://www.surfline.com/surf-news/visual-history-surfboard-fins/25660

The paddle-in guns of today, ridden by the elite surfers in waves like Maverick’s, Waimea Bay and Todos Santos, are usually in the normally in the 9 to11-foot range.

“My board is 11’ 3”, four inches thick and has been glassed twice to make it extra heavy,” said Shane Dorian on the board he rode at Portugal’s infamous Nazaré in 2013. Shane rides quad fins, although some surfers, like the Long brothers, Greg and Rusty, prefer three fins.

https://mpora.com/surfing/kit-need-big-wave-surfing