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Title: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: motopilot on May 15, 2009, 12:31:11 PM
I was finally able to get on the PSH 10'6WAA so I thought I would post a short review.  Been out on it the past 5 days in everything from flat water to head high surf (today) up in New Jersey. 

First off one word describes this board STABLE.  I have owned the PSH 10'6AA so it was nice to campare the two.  The WAA is extremely stable (I am 190lbs) and easy to paddle.  The paddle speed was plenty on the flat water and was great for crusing in the flats (backbays) and on the oceanside.  The baord has plenty of glid and speed yet was still easy to pivot turn around in smaller areas.

In the surf this board is SWEET.  From knee high to head high this board was able to handle everything very well.  Although it is wide, I was still able to go rail to rail without any problems so the extra width was not an issue.   Today the surf was clean but very peaky with alot of broken sections.  I took alot of late drops and was able to accelerate through the closeouts sections and rip turns all over. 

This is a great board for someone who wants a stable board, yetwants to progress into the surf.  This is a board that can do it all.  Going to go out tomorrow for some photos to post, and to compare to the PSH 11' (which I will write about tomorrow).

Finally a little durablilty test.  I pulled the board off the rack (chest high) and accidently dropped it onto the pavement.  Only a couple of scratches on the rail.  No dents, or damage.   Very cool board, thanks Blane.
moto
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Bob from Brazil on May 15, 2009, 12:38:23 PM
Great input, Moto... If you can, I'd be interested in a direct comparisson between the 3 boards... Let us know what you feel are the pros and cons on each board... I think that will be a valuable info...

Mahalo from Brazil,
Bob.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: motopilot on May 15, 2009, 12:42:21 PM
Great input, Moto... If you can, I'd be interested in a direct comparisson between the 3 boards... Let us know what you feel are the pros and cons on each board... I think that will be a valuable info...

Mahalo from Brazil,
Bob.

What three?  Be glad to write something.  I know its hard when you cannot try all at once so be glad to provide some input.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: diesel on May 15, 2009, 12:54:17 PM
Motopilot,  Thanks for the review.  I am interested in that board and it is good to get some opinions.  Plus, we are about the same weight.  Did you feel like it didn't surf as good as the regular 10'6 AA or was it about the same?  Thanks for your input
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: motopilot on May 15, 2009, 01:13:53 PM
Motopilot,  Thanks for the review.  I am interested in that board and it is good to get some opinions.  Plus, we are about the same weight.  Did you feel like it didn't surf as good as the regular 10'6 AA or was it about the same?  Thanks for your input

LOL funny you say that.  This is an awesome board but I prefer my 10'6AA still.  Now I have friends who are lighter who bought the 10'6WAA (one was out with me today)  as they preferred to have the extra width for the stability.  The nice part about this board is it is stable, but it transitions rail to rail very quickly and smoothly.  That's nice for such a wide board.  Will try to post some pics tomorrow.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Bob from Brazil on May 15, 2009, 01:21:30 PM
What three?  Be glad to write something.  I know its hard when you cannot try all at once so be glad to provide some input.

I was refering to:
- 10'6AA (that you previously owned);
- 10'6 Wide (that you've been out for the past 5 days); &
- 11' Wide (that you'll write about tomorrow).

In another post, I told Diesel I bought the 11' for my wife but I love to ride it... In fact, Today I took it for a nearly none conditions to surf (it was raining, small waves, windy & choppy) and I had a great time with it... A friend of mine was having a hard time on his 10' C4 and he is at least 15lbs. lighter than I am (200lbs.). People keep asking me if that 11' isn't too much of a board for my weight. I keep telling that's the beauty of it, even it crappy conditions like today I felt like I was in a Caddilac...

Sometimes I think the 10'6 Wide would be a better choice; but sometimes I think the massive specs of the 11' are fine just because they're massive...
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: motopilot on May 15, 2009, 01:27:42 PM
What three?  Be glad to write something.  I know its hard when you cannot try all at once so be glad to provide some input.

I was refering to:
- 10'6AA (that you previously owned);
- 10'6 Wide (that you've been out for the past 5 days); &
- 11' Wide (that you'll write about tomorrow).

In another post, I told Diesel I bought the 11' for my wife but I love to ride it... In fact, Today I took it for a nearly none conditions to surf (it was raining, small waves, windy & choppy) and I had a great time with it... A friend of mine was having a hard time on his 10' C4 and he is at least 15lbs. lighter than I am (200lbs.). People keep asking me if that 11' isn't too much of a board for my weight. I keep telling that's the beauty of it, even it crappy conditions like today I felt like I was in a Caddilac...

Sometimes I think the 10'6 Wide would be a better choice; but sometimes I think the massive specs of the 11' are fine just because they're massive...

I was thiniking about that, I will post one tomorrow as I have been riding the PSH 11'AA as well this week.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Bob from Brazil on May 15, 2009, 02:10:36 PM
Just some info quoted  from PSH's website:

10'6" All Arounder 10'6" Wide All Arounder 11' Wide All Arounder
10'6" x 28-3/8" x 4-5/8" 10'6" x 30" x 4-3/4" 11' x 30-5/8" x 4-7/8"
Beginners up to 180 lbs in Calm Conditions or Expert Level Paddler/Surfers to 250 lbs. Beginners up to 200 lbs in Calm Conditions or Expert Level Paddler/Surfers to 290 lbs. Beginners up to 250 lbs in Calm Conditions or Expert Level Paddler/Surfers to 290+ lbs.
This board is intended for both leisure paddling or performance surfing. The 10-6 can handle just about anything. From casual carving 1 foot waves to racing sections on triple overhead, critical bombs, this board performs not only well but exceptionally well for a wide variety of skill levels and types of waves. This board is the favorite all around over 10' model for hundreds of paddlers and surfers. A must have for your quiver. This board is intended for both leisure paddling or high performance surfing. This board is far different from any other 30" wide board on the market. Great for the person looking for stability but you do not want one of those hard to turn big boards out there, this is it for you. This board carves solid turns! This board is basically a more satable version of the popular 10-6 All Arounder. Performance Matters for EVERYONE. This board is intended for both leisure paddling or high performance surfing. This board is the ultimate in stability from Paddle Surf Hawaii. Comfort on the water in a variety of conditions is what you are going to get on this model. The added bonus is the 11' Wide All Arounder surfs well too. The same effort that goes into designing our Ripper models went into the 11' WAA. No board on the market with this kind of volume comes close in blending surfing performance and stability. Performance Matters for EVERYONE!
Title: Re: PSH 10'6WAA / 11'WAA / 10'6AA review
Post by: motopilot on May 16, 2009, 06:57:35 AM
OK Just got off a very crazy morning session.  Waves were waist to head high and glassy, if you could see them.  Fog has been rolling in since yesterday.  Visibility was around 20yrds as once you were out you could not see shore, beach, people, waves, etc.  I switched bwtween the PSH 11'WAA and the 10'6WAA.  Both boards are super stable, easy to paddle and very forgiving in the flat water as well as the waves.  Here are my notes from the past week playing on the twp models.

PSH 11'WAA - This has to be the moststable SUP I have ever been on.  Really this board is BIG.  Even though this board is big, I was able to move it all over the wave face.  Setup as a 2+1 I could catch waves so early and still pull through all sections and come off the top of the wave.  Was walking all over it front to back and was as stable as could be.  Despite  its size this board can be surfed.  I felt I was too light for it (190lbs) but anyone over 200+ lbs and up that wants a stable board  to use flatwater and surf will love this board. 

If you want even more stability than the 10'6WAA then this would be the board for you.

PSH 10'6WAA - Wrote a little about this board yesterday so pretty much more of the same.  More stable than a 10'6AA yet still easy rail to rail transitions.  I saw a fellow SUPer out having some trouble on his board and let him take this out........Had to chase him down to give it back.  If you wantmore stability than the 10'6AA then go with the wide model.  You really do not loose any performance by going to the wider model  but gain alot more stability.  Again, I could see no problem with a person 230+ lbs on this board and just ripping on it. 

PSH 10'6AA -   I have been riding this board for over a year and this is my favorite PSH.  The big difference between this and the other 10'WAA is the width.  At 190lbs I fell I do not need the width of the wide and perfer the narrow board.  I like the narrow board for quicker rail to rail response and yet is still plenty stable.  Although this is more narrow than the wide it is still plenty stable for anyone from beginner lightweight to heavyweight.  I used this board to teach my neighbor and he is 185lbs.  Now is he progressing to the 10' PSH.

I hope this information helps some of you out.  I know its tough to sometimes compare all the different boads on the market and I was able to get on these boards this week so i thought I would make a post.  Will post some photos here for comparsion in a little bit.
 ;D
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Hoffenator on May 16, 2009, 08:24:07 AM
Moto, thanks this is great info, although I don't know if you made my decision any easier  :-\.  I've been fence sitting for a while, been real tempted to go for a cheaper brand and I'm trying real hard to hold out for one of the PSH models.  I've been focusing on the suggested weight range for the different models and so I thought the WAA was way too much.  However, your comments have got me re-thinking the WAA.  I think it could be the perfect board for me to progress on and still have the stability for my wife and kids to take out and not be frustrated.  The only better option than the 10-6 WAA will be the 10 WAA that was just mentioned in another post  ;D.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: TerryS on May 17, 2009, 01:16:15 AM
Moto I wish I knew you were in town I would of loved to hook up and demo some of those PSH wides,I have to get down to LBI try some.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: motopilot on May 17, 2009, 04:42:00 AM
Moto I wish I knew you were in town I would of loved to hook up and demo some of those PSH wides,I have to get down to LBI try some.

Going to be back up in a couple of weeks.  Send me a pm and I will let you know.  Can work something out.

moto
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Fird on May 17, 2009, 05:10:22 AM
I have the 10-6waa. Changing fins loosens this board up big time. Been using Sunny G set with a center box adapter. I'm 195lbs,  SUPER STABLE!!!! Have been using it for Striper fishing past week. 
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: 1paddle2paddle on May 26, 2009, 11:50:32 AM
Just bought this board, primarily so that my wife could have something stable to learn on and I could use it in adverse (in other words windy & small) conditions. 

She tried it for the first time yesterday and loved it!  It is very stable and it allowed her to paddle into and catch waves for the first time on SUP.  But even though it is stable, it also turns easily (even for lighter riders) and she was able to manage it and turn it easily.

Then I took it out and was very pleasantly surprised at how well it surfed for such a stable board.  Even though it is big you can still do rebounds off the soup and redirect it pretty effortlessly.  As with apparently all PSH boards it surfs very well off the tail.

IMO this is another winner from Blane.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Bob from Brazil on May 26, 2009, 02:32:12 PM
The good old wife trick...  Been there... Done that too on a PSH 11'... ;)
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: diesel on May 26, 2009, 03:08:11 PM
I just bought one too and this board is so fun.  It's got the glide and it's got the turning and it's stable. It is a winner for an all-arounder.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: 1paddle2paddle on May 26, 2009, 03:12:40 PM
The good old wife trick...  Been there... Done that too on a PSH 11'... ;)
Hey just don't tell my wife!  ;)
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Stewart on May 28, 2009, 10:42:36 AM
I just wanted to give my two cents about the 10'6" WAA.  My current quiver consist of the 9'3" Ripper, 9'6" WAA, 9'8" Ripper, and 12'0" Gun.  I ride my 9'3" for everything from waist high to almost triple overhead 8'-10' Hawaiian.  The 9'6" for 8'-12' Hawaiian, and the 12' for the bigger stuff.

Up until a few days ago the 9'6" WAA has been my go to board when it was small.  The width made the board very stable.  The thickness and width of the board gave extra flotation that allowed me to catch the weaker waves easily and early.   Yet the board remained very manueverable.

Using the 9'6" WAA is great.  Unless you're with Blane and Austin on their 12's.  We have been surfing a spot lately, since it's been small, thats only been about waist high or smaller.  It's a fun wave that allows you to ride it for about 400 yards.  Being on the shorter board I obviously wasn't getting first pick of the better waves, and wasn't able to ride the waves as far as Blane and Austin.  So the next day I show up with my 12' and even up the odds, and had a great time on the small waves.  It was classic to watch from where ever you happened to be.  While on a wave I could see Blane on a wave 50 yards in front of me, and 50 yards in front of Blane was Austin, just classic, and fun.  While paddling out the other view of friends on waves all separated by about 50 yards yelling and smiling.  This is what SUPing is about.
 
Anyway I go to the shop later in the day and pick-up the 10'6" WAA (I've been updating my quiver from the old FCS fins on the production boards, to the new boards with Future Fins).  I used the old "It's for the wife trick", while picking up this board.  My intent was to have a bigger, stable board just for paddling around.    Being that the board iwas just for paddling I put on a center fin and side fins that I really don't care for, thinking that it really won't matter just for paddling.

The next morning I take the 10'6" WAA with me.  I knew the waves were really small, and wanted to see what the board would paddle like.  I pull up to the SUP capitol of surfing on Oahu (everyday at least 20 SUPer's in the line-up, I've counted up to 60 on one day).  The waves were about waist high and weak.  I decided I would catch a few to see what the board felt like, and boy what a surprise I got. 

First of all the board is prettly light for it's size and easy to carry with the new built in finger holds to carry the board.  Once standing up the board was very, very, stable which was to be expected.  It paddles very fast and planes well on the water surface.  I would compare the paddling speed on flat water similar to the 12'.  On my first wave I expected the board to bog on the bottom turn due to no wave power, so I kinda of went gently on the turn thinking that I would keep the tail of the board kind of flat so that it would not stall.   As the turn progressed I realized that the board had carried/created enough speed to allow me to put the board on rail for the bottom turn.  Once I sank the rail the board accelerated off of the bottom and allowed me to go straight to the shoulder and pull a full round cutback.  Not what I expected to be doing on the 10'6"WAA on small weak waves.  That was the first surprise.

The second surprise.  Coming from a shorboarder background and only longboarding for a few years I would consider my nose riding abilities as just fair.  I can hang five on my longboards, and have never been able to get all ten on the nose.  With this 10'6" WAA, with great regularity, I was able to CAMP on the nose hanging five for 30-40 yards at a time without the tail sliding out on me.  I also was able to hang ten for the first time on several occasions.  WOW what a surprise.

The third surprise.  As I mentioned earlier this spot is the SUP surf capitol.  There was other SUPers catching and sharing the same waves with me.  The difference I noticed is that as the wave came to certain sections in would back off and reform in the deeper water.  The other SUPers would loose the wave once it backed off.  The board maintained so much of its speed/glide that I was able to connect the sections and ride the wave for 400 + yards.

The fourth surprise.  I'll let you know, today I'm gonna put on some fins I like.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: diesel on May 28, 2009, 03:32:27 PM
Stewart,  I am so stoked on this board too.  I love walking the board and Blane seems to have incorporated this into the 10'6 WAA.  I feel like I can have fun on the smallest waves but also charge the biggest bombs on the same board.  Please let me know your fin setup.  I have setup mine with 4.5" sides and a 7" center from the PSH shop.  Seems to work good.  I plan on surfing this board a lot because it doesn't tire me out when I stay out 4 or 5 hours. 
I still love the handshaped 9'6 WAA I bought at the shop.  I think my 9'6 is a bit more progressive than the molded one because it is a handshape with a super thin tail and nose.  It is so loose and rippable.  I use that one when the waves are cherry and hollow.  I hope to get a nice tube ride with the 9'6. 
Stewart, How is your tuberiding with SUP?  Any techniques you can share?
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Mauiguy on May 28, 2009, 05:32:43 PM
Now I'm stoked because I did the unthinkable this week (against most people's advice - except you diesel) and bought one.  I should have it in time for the weekend and will let everyone know what I think.  Cannot wait.

Pray for surf!

Alohaz,

Gary
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: diesel on May 28, 2009, 06:53:58 PM
MauiGuy,  you are going to love that board.  I mean, we are doing standup to get the glide of the big boards.  If not we could surf shortboards.  This big board can turn.  I have done some full rail carves and floaters already on the 10'6 WAA.  I love it.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Blane Chambers on May 28, 2009, 07:15:10 PM
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Stewart, How is your tuberiding with SUP?  Any techniques you can share?

(http://photos.imageevent.com/torturechambers/moremisc2/websize/Stewart1.jpg)
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: hawaiian.style on May 28, 2009, 07:54:50 PM
looks like he's on the 2 step program.

step 1: catch wave
step 2: get shacked
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Mauiguy on May 28, 2009, 09:24:54 PM
Right on Diesel.  It's summertime.  Waves stay small kine.   I tried a bigger board this week and really liked the feel.  I've heard nothing but good things about PSH and can't wait to get my paws on the new stick (hopefully tomorrow).  Goal is to get as much water time as possible this summer.  Will be out when it's flat, windy, whatever.    Super stoked!

Aloha,

Gary
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Blane Chambers on May 28, 2009, 09:40:20 PM
Well, with 167 liters of volume, its bound to be good right? ;)
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: blackmagic on May 29, 2009, 07:08:51 AM
Can you translate that into cubic feet of volume please ?
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: outcast on May 29, 2009, 07:28:58 AM
44 gallons
0.7 Akebono
nobody uses cubic feet in sup (yet!)
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: hawaiian.style on May 29, 2009, 07:37:22 AM
I might have missed it, but for all the people riding the 10'6" AA, if you don't mind me asking, how heavy are you?  I guess I'm just wondering how this board performs for the lighter riders (< 170 lbs)...
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: southwesterly on May 29, 2009, 07:45:35 AM
5.89 cubic feet for the 10'6"WAA.
5.19 for the 10'6" AA.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: diesel on May 29, 2009, 09:53:47 AM
I might have missed it, but for all the people riding the 10'6" AA, if you don't mind me asking, how heavy are you?  I guess I'm just wondering how this board performs for the lighter riders (< 170 lbs)...

HawaiianStyle,  I am 5'11 and 185 lbs and so is my friend 1paddle2paddle.  We have many years of longboard experience so we are used to riding bigger boards and carving them in juicy waves.  As long as you get your weight in the sweet spot on the tail, you can turn any size board.  Every board has a little different sweet spot so you have to play around with it.  For me on the 10'6 WAA, I just make sure to get my foot over the fins and closer to the inside rail of the turn. 
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: blackmagic on June 01, 2009, 06:44:18 AM
Southwesterly, Your the man .... err ---- Kitten  ....
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Mauiguy on June 01, 2009, 06:56:51 AM
I might have missed it, but for all the people riding the 10'6" AA, if you don't mind me asking, how heavy are you?  I guess I'm just wondering how this board performs for the lighter riders (< 170 lbs)...

6' even, 172-175lbs here.   I felt like a wave hero on Sunday.  I could do no wrong in the clean waist high south shore peelers.  I was in heaven!  The wide platform made a huge different.   Slow board but nice glide!  As a beginner sup'er (long time surfer/windsurfer), I never had so much fun!
Aloha,

Gary B.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: diesel on June 01, 2009, 10:22:30 AM
MauiGuy,

Out of curiousity, what kind of boards do you prone surf?  I was just wondering because if you are coming form shortboard then riding a big SUP is a bigger transition than coming from a performance longboard.  The turning is much different.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Stewart on June 01, 2009, 10:50:05 AM
Diesel,

Howzit, I'm in total agreement with you.  I just can't believe how well this board turns and surfs.  Total surprise especially for how big the board is.  But, I really shouldn't be surprised, because whenever I talk with Blane over board designs he always tells me, "Whatever board I shape the first thing I do is make sure that it's gonna surf."

The surprising thing is that this board was designed for the 250 pound range, I'm in the 190 pound range, and it does this for me, there's some big boys that are going to be ripping with this.

My fin set-up is similar to yours 4.6" sides, 7" Kanoa Dahlin "Jr. Boy" middle fin, about mid box.  I've surfed this board almost everyday for 10 days now and been having a lot of fun on the small stuff.  I taked to Blane and told him about how well the boards been working for me, and that I even was thinking about taking it out in some bigger surf because I wanted to see how well it would hold in the bigger stuff. 

I've been telling Blane about how much fun the board is that he padded up a 10'6" WAA for himself also.  The other benefit about riding the 10'6" WAA is that the other day I used my 9'3" Ripper at Laniakea on some 4' waves and I swear the board was reacting like it thought it was a 6'3", everything tight and quick.  Fun, fun, fun.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Mauiguy on June 01, 2009, 11:02:43 AM
Hi Diesel, I ride mainly 3 different prone board, a 9'0" performance longboard (Charlie Smith), a 7'10" mini tanker (Timpone), and a 6'10" thruster (Charlie Smith).  I'm not a very good short boarder but can work the longboard and mini in overhead surf.

As for the transition to sup, I haven't found it difficult at all.  In fact just the opposite.  I'm used to getting my feet over the rail from lots of windsurfing & wavesailing.  A big sup board on a wave is perhaps most similar to wavesailing on light wind days when there's not much power in the sail.

Aloha!

-Gary
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Stewart on June 04, 2009, 11:35:53 AM
Used the 10'6" WAA today in 3-4' surf (1-2' overhead) and  :) :) :) :) :).

For a big board it transitions from rail to rail very well.  Gotta try it in even bigger waves.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: diesel on June 04, 2009, 03:26:08 PM
Used the 10'6" WAA today in 3-4' surf (1-2' overhead) and  :) :) :) :) :).

For a big board it transitions from rail to rail very well.  Gotta try it in even bigger waves.

Stewart,  where did you try it at?  somewhere on Oahu if you don't mind me asking?  I was curious as to how it performed at different breaks.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Stewart on June 05, 2009, 08:46:18 AM
When it was small been using it at White Plains, very weak wave, but always something there to surf.

Used it at Maili Point yersterday, all lefts, very fun.  Long walls that allow you to bury rail and make long drawn out turns.

Got to try it on a bigger wave with a more vertical face, hopefully the next two south swells will make some of these outer reefs go off.  I'll definitely try the 10'6" WAA if it gets big.  The dilemna for me is that when it's good I want to jump on my 9'3", or maybe even my new 9'0" roundpin I'm expecting any day now.   I'll share some photos of the new prototype as soon as I get it.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Blane Chambers on June 05, 2009, 09:25:09 AM
I haven't been riding this board because I really made it for heavier people.     Up until now I would only ride it if I traded off with someone so I never had fins I liked on it.       Stewart has been ripping on it lately which means he's calling me out.    I wasn't gonna let him have all the fun so I finally padded one up of my own.     Biggest thing I notice with that board is how stable it is.   I was pumping it down the line today on some really small waves and when I kicked out over ultra shallow reef, it was no problem staying on top and avoiding reef rash.    I had a couple lip smacks over the shallows too and pulled them off no problem.    

For me the board feels wide, stable but still rippable.     I let my friend try it and I was on his 9' longboard and he was doing stand up for his 3rd time ever.    He was paddling all around on it stoked and said it was the most stable board he's tried so far.    In the mean time I was grovelling on his longboard wishing he would hurry up and give my board back.

I'm gonna spend more time on it and get my fins dialed.     Plenty swells on the way...    Should get it wired soon...   Then I gotta show Stewart how to really turn it! ;) ;D
(http://photos.imageevent.com/torturechambers/newmisc/websize/1deck.JPG)

I'm still not sure of this fin set up for me.   I think I'll drop the center down to the 6.5" flex with the Occy Sides or try different sides with the 7"  
(http://photos.imageevent.com/torturechambers/newmisc/websize/1Fins.JPG)
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Stewart on June 05, 2009, 09:35:18 AM
Blane glad you finally used the 10'6" WAA.  Like I've been telling you it's one of those magic boards.  However, I don't think you'll be able to replicate those turns you witnessed the other day at Maile Point.  May I suggest eating more so you have the weight to bury the rail :D :D :D

Can't wait for the next session.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Blane Chambers on June 05, 2009, 09:37:03 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Mauiguy on June 05, 2009, 10:39:06 AM
This board works great for lightweights like me at 175lbs.  I borrowed my Jimmy Lewis 7" center and find the board very loose with good down the line speed.  I was really surprised how well this board surfs, and with all the akebonos (read: volume), I feel it really kicked my learning curve up a notch.   One word of advice though, never and I mean never drop a SUP board on your big toe (or any toe for that matter)!  We're talking can't walk kind of pain.

Aloha!

Gary
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Fird on June 05, 2009, 10:54:46 AM
Try the Sunny G thruster set up with fin box adapter for the small (4.6) center fin. Board has plenty of rail for bite. 
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Tree on June 05, 2009, 11:08:51 AM
Yep what he said... Never been a fan of 2+1, thruster all the way. 2+1 is way to stiff for the waves we get, and with a thruster set up you can free the tail up too. So much rail on sups. Blane are you ever going to make any quads in your line. I would love to have a 9'6"WAA with a 5 fin option! I have only ridden Firdkuas 10'6" and a hand shaped board tha you made and love the way your boards work.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Blane Chambers on June 05, 2009, 11:22:26 AM
Yes.     

Only a few of my boards I like a thruster set up.     I prefer a bigger center.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: awe on June 05, 2009, 12:39:04 PM
Blane,
Any 9'10 w rippers coming? I have the 9'6" wide ripper, thought maybe a 9'10" wide might be coming :)
              Aloha
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Byronmaui on June 05, 2009, 01:41:50 PM
I have not ridden this board but I was reminded right now via-phone by my 5'2 330 lb 5'8 235lb childhood friend that he was insanely barreled on one of these boards.... :o :o :o

Aloha

Byron
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: diesel on June 05, 2009, 02:44:41 PM
I like the 2+1 fin setup that Blane rides as well.  If you have 4.5" sides and around a 7" center with it moved up in the box then it seems very loose but it won't slide out on a steep wave.  Somehow I don't trust having only the 4.5" back fin on a good wave.  If you surf the board with your back foot right over the fins, the 2+1 is quite loose.  I have thrown the tail out a few times on a cutback with the 2+1 setup on a 9'6 WAA.  To each his own because everybody surfs different.  There definitely is no right or wrong fin setup, just preferences.  Has anyone used the thruster (4.5" all three fins) setup in overhead, steep waves?  Did the board slip if you pulled up high and tight in the pocket?  Just curious because I have not used that setup.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: motopilot on June 05, 2009, 02:54:06 PM
I have ridden both the 9'6 Ripper and 9'6AA in head high surf with a straight tri-fin setup.  yes it is loose.  The board never seemed to slip but I was always trying to keep it on the rail which may have helped.  It was a nice setup and still use it sometimes but also do the 2+1.  Both are fun setups.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: diesel on June 05, 2009, 02:55:14 PM
I have not ridden this board but I was reminded right now via-phone by my 5'2 330 lb 5'8 235lb childhood friend that he was insanely barreled on one of these boards.... :o :o :o

Aloha

Byron

I am also super hyped to get barrelled deep on SUP.  Anyone care to discuss barrel riding technique for SUP?  I know some guys guys are getting pitted somewhere and there must be some technique.  I am guessing frontside is easier.  Maybe do a deep and drawn out bottom turn and pull up right in front of the throwing lip into the pocket.  Then what?  Maybe stick the paddle in the wave to stall.  Should you fade up into the wave or can you pull up hard into the pocket and kick the board down.  I have tried and the board travelled to high in the wall and went over.  I have only seen Ikaika and Kainoa Mgee but that was at pipe which is not a normal wave.  There is no footage of barrel riding on SUP so far besides those guys.  I was thinking more of a normal type tubing wave.  I am psyched to learn this if anybody has got some pointers thru experience.  How about Blane and the boys, any tips?
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: diesel on June 05, 2009, 04:59:35 PM
Sorry, I didn't realize I was starting to hijack the thread.  Let me post barrel riding as a new topic under technique.  Mahalo.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: Byronmaui on July 11, 2009, 09:15:02 PM
Oahu's most famous Opala picker playing with his 10'6 AA....Not my photos just sharing the stoke....

Aloha

Byron

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Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: crtraveler on October 12, 2009, 03:35:51 PM
Finally got a chance to try the board I have been waiting to try......and as I thought it was awesome.  The 10'6" WAA is the board for me.  My buddy picked one up and I'll get mine in the spring.  I'm  6'3, 230#, 2yrs on SP Kalama 11'6".  This board will take it to the next level for sure.  Will post a new thread comparing the Kalama to the WAA.  Thanks Motopilot for sending us down to Island Surf and Sail in NJ - well worth the 3 hr trip.  Please send our (Jon + Seth from NY) thanks to them when you see them next!!
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: motopilot on October 12, 2009, 04:25:16 PM
LOL your welcome.  Glad you like the board.  Great board for someone your size.  Just ask EastFL.  Can't get him off his. ;D ;D
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: EastFL on October 13, 2009, 05:36:46 AM
You are going to love that board.  I'm about 20 lbs heavier than you and the board is great coming down from a bigger stick.  I'm really impressed with mine. 

My recommendation is take it out in anything and everything.  I bought mine thinking that I would only use it in bigger cleaner surf since I was coming down from a 12x32 board.  Even at my size it catches small waves great and it's really stable.  I've had mine for about 4 or five weeks and I feel fine in a reasonable onshore chop.

The board paddles well.  The last couple sessions we've had about a 2 mile paddle each way to the break.  At 250 lbs, I never thought I'd paddle a 10'6" that far for a surf. 

Enough rambling... Have fun with the new board.   

Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: diesel on October 13, 2009, 01:58:50 PM
I am still surfing mine in all types of surf and I am 190 lbs.  At my weight you can cruise into big bombs but still move the board around if you know how to use your weight and feet placement.  I love it because you can get to the outer reefs quick but still surf good when you get there.  I just had an unreal session at my outer reef spot.  It was head high and bowling out.  I was doing these nice bottom turns and hooking into the bowling section.  So fun.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: NickFL on October 15, 2009, 11:10:03 AM
This was my first board (10'6" WAA) and I love it.  I am completely new to SUP and surfing and I caught my first wave the other day.  Now it was only a knee high roller but it was a great time.  The only time I have had trouble with the board was in 15mph+ winds and some chop.  This was also my second time ever on a SUP though.  It feels like a solid platform after 3 weekends of using it.  I'm 6'1" and 220-225 lbs with not much to lose and it floats me fine for a newbie.  I originally wanted the 11' WAA but I live in a condo and the 10'6 was the biggest I could fit into my elevator.  I'm already talking to place an order for a 3way split 12'6" big boy trainer from Corran for cruising and fishing on.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: crtraveler on October 23, 2009, 05:16:21 AM
There is a HUGE difference in the performance between the Kalama 11'6" and the PSH 10'6"WAA - I was actually very, very surprised.  I will be posting further review and photos soon.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: linter on October 23, 2009, 06:36:30 AM
and when you're ready for the 9.6 waa, i'll trade you mine for your 10.6!  (9.6 is just to small for my uncoordinated ass ...)
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: crtraveler on October 23, 2009, 10:26:34 AM
Linter - As you saw at Matunuck, I'm a big guy - 9'6" might be pushing it for me right now.  If you wanna sell it though, I do have a few buddies that may be interested.  Next trip up to RI pretty soon.....Lemme know if interested
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: crtraveler on October 23, 2009, 10:28:27 AM
BTW Linter - that shot of the boards as well as some more i will post soon are from Lake Mahopac!!! ;D
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: linter on October 23, 2009, 10:54:49 AM
ah the good ol' days -- go out and catch a largemouth bass for me!

and do let me know when you're coming up to RI.  would you be bringing that 10.6?  i'd sure love to try it, if you'll let it go for a sec or two....
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: crtraveler on October 26, 2009, 05:02:28 PM
Will bring the 10'6" if my buddy comes up - as it is actually his.....planning on getting mine in the spring.  I am hoping to get down to surf it this week.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: crtraveler on October 26, 2009, 05:05:17 PM
Here are 2 more pics from the flatwater session in Lake Mahopac the other day.  The board rides a bit lower in the water than the Kalama does and is a little bit slower, glide wise. 
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: EastFL on November 21, 2009, 09:08:32 AM
I have a couple months on my board now.  So far, really like it.  I'd be interested to hear what some of you guys are using for different fins set ups??/

I've been using stock center and side bites, but I'm going to start playing around with some different set ups. 
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: motopilot on November 21, 2009, 03:37:48 PM
Erik, you RIP on that board.  Suits you well.  Look at the photos, think you have it dialed in.
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: petemc on November 22, 2009, 07:24:29 PM
I have a couple months on my board now.  So far, really like it.  I'd be interested to hear what some of you guys are using for different fins set ups??/

I've been using stock center and side bites, but I'm going to start playing around with some different set ups. 

FCS PC5's with a 5 1/2 - 6'' dolphin fin if your under 190lb or FCS PC7's as a thruster setup or with a 6 -61/2" dolphin centre fin setup.  Mate of mine here in Aus at 230lbs uses the PC7 thruster setup and absolutely rips.

I've got the 9'6 and 11'er both in WAA.  PC5's on the 9'6 with 6 1/2" Performance centre fin and PC7's and 7" Performance centre fin on the 11'er.

Cheers

Pete
Title: Re: PSH 10'6 WAA review
Post by: EastFL on November 23, 2009, 05:46:36 PM
Moto- thanks for the kind words.  Really stoked on the new board.  Early on I never thought I'd ride that sized board at 250. 

Petemc- thanks for the info.  Board is really loose with a 2+1 now.  A thruster set up sounds interesting.  I'd like to try it. 
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