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Title: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: capobeachboy on December 06, 2016, 12:44:47 PM
Chris shoved off yesterday from Morocco - first stop the Canary Islands.  Pretty rad adventure. Fair winds and following seas ! http://chrisbertish.com/about-chris/

Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Area 10 on December 06, 2016, 01:31:29 PM
The link you supplied is just an advert for his motivational speeches. It includes such gems as "if you truly believe in something, set your sights on your goal – no matter how big – work hard at it, stay focused and never give up, you can achieve anything". What a load of sh&t. No matter how hard I work I'm never gonna beat Usain Bolt at 100m, am I? So stop this childish nonsense. There's a difference between motivated and deluded, and success in life depends on recognising that difference.

Instead, here is the link that describes his actually SUP crossing, I think:

http://www.thesupcrossing.com

I wish him the best of luck. He is very brave to take this on and it would be an astonishing feat.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Subber on December 06, 2016, 01:39:02 PM
Come on Area 10, it works if you give 120%!
 ;D
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: yugi on December 06, 2016, 01:50:54 PM
The link you supplied is just an advert for his motivational speeches. It includes such gems as "if you truly believe in something, set your sights on your goal – no matter how big – work hard at it, stay focused and never give up, you can achieve anything". What a load of sh&t. No matter how hard I work I'm never gonna beat Usain Bolt at 100m, am I? So stop this childish nonsense. There's a difference between motivated and deluded, and success in life depends on recognising that difference.

Instead, here is the link that describes his actually SUP crossing, I think:

http://www.thesupcrossing.com

I wish him the best of luck. He is very brave to take this on and it would be an astonishing feat.

LOL, yeah, you'd have to practice a hell of a lot!

You're spot on with the comment about the difference between motivated and delusional.

Nicolas Jarossay, who tried the same crossing last year wasn't prepared enough it seems. I was surprised he didn't have a plan for if his SUP boat capsized. Kind of luckyit wasn't worse.

Hope Chris is prepared. I wish him luck. That's really crazy. I need a beer or 7 after about 30 miles.



Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: TallDude on December 06, 2016, 02:25:15 PM
Well, we spent 20th century trying to figure out the fastest way to cross the Atlantic. We can now spend the 21st century trying to find the slowest way.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Night Wing on December 06, 2016, 04:18:10 PM
If he can accomplish the crossing with a sup, that is going to be one tremendous and incredible feat. I salute people like this.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: 1tuberider on December 07, 2016, 06:41:06 AM
I wish him well and hope he makes it.

Why do this in December? This I do not understand.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: yugi on December 07, 2016, 08:35:18 AM
^ trade winds.

Nov/Dec also the best months for the wind north shore Brazil (coming from canary islands).
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: stoneaxe on December 07, 2016, 10:05:16 AM
No pictures of the board? Hope it's better than Jarossay's. That was certainly a delusional attempt..... ::)
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: yugi on December 07, 2016, 10:09:52 AM
Maybe this illustrates trade winds better
   https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/1000hPa/orthographic=-43.56,19.23,1024
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: TallDude on December 07, 2016, 10:13:59 AM
Here you go Bob. It looks similar to something else??????  Good to see he recessed the standing area. That'll help.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Zooport on December 07, 2016, 02:02:44 PM
This may be a stupid comment from an armchair quarterback...but that looks more like a standup boat than a standup paddleboard.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Area 10 on December 07, 2016, 02:44:24 PM
That board looks like Starboard made a Nicki Minaj special edition of the All Star.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: stoneaxe on December 07, 2016, 05:05:01 PM
I'd expect anything designed to do this to look something like that.....not going to work on a stock 14'er....still takes huge big brass ones to cross the Atlantic solo....props.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: 1tuberider on December 08, 2016, 06:38:02 AM
Thanks Yugi 
 
I am getting pounded by storm after storm. Hard to believe the whole world is not being pounded.
It looks like he could have winds pushing him the whole way. I do see from windty that he can still
get caught in higher wind and sea as you can in any passage. Looks like a passage to set a sail
and do a major down winder. Hard to believe anyone wants to paddle that distance.

I hope he has success.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: viatormundi on December 08, 2016, 09:14:36 AM
I wonder how that design copes with side wind conditions. Hasn't a French man tried a similar thing but his board/boat capsized within 24 hours?


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Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Area 10 on December 08, 2016, 10:51:21 AM
I can't imagine he's going to be paddling against the wind. In fact I shouldn't think he'll paddle that much at all. Basically he's going to have to drift/get blown to his destination, surely? You wouldn't be able to paddle that thing in any direction except straight downwind, I wouldn't have thought.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: TallDude on December 08, 2016, 02:00:52 PM
It looks like he's averaging about 3.7 km/h ( 2.2 mph ) based on the satellite tracking. Probably faster because he's taking some sight seeing breaks in between. He's covered about 100 km in 48 hours. He seems to be holding course for the most part. Drifting when he sleeps and takes breaks. KEEP PADDLING CHRIS!!!! I say he makes it.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: TallDude on December 22, 2016, 12:13:13 PM
Update..
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: TallDude on January 14, 2017, 07:35:51 PM
Today when I was a good 2 miles + offshore looking for whales, I thought about and wondered where Chris is, and if he's still going. After following his posts I found he's been through some nasty seas, medical issues and mechanical failures, but he seems to be finding solutions for them one at a time. He's achieving what very few would or could ever imagine doing.
He talks about paddling in the ocean at night alone. I can semi relate because I do that as well, but there are always some lights on my horizon. He has nothing when the moon is not out. He talks about riding out storms in big seas in the middle of the night. I couldn't imagine dealing with that in the middle of the day.
Here is a long interview with him yesterday via satellite phone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zem3jjecEs8
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: surfercook on January 15, 2017, 07:39:42 AM
Brave soul. The details of the trip state he finishes in Florida but on the video his route takes him to the Northeast. At around 120 days that puts him in the NE late March...CHILLY! I've signed up for updates to this amazing and ambitious adventure. I don't even wanna paddle across my measly 2 mile bay!  :P
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: TallDude on February 11, 2017, 06:37:12 PM
Chris is more than halfway across. The guy is out there in the middle of the Atlantic, by himself, charging. Pretty amazing. Keep paddling Chris.....


Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: blueplanetsurf on February 11, 2017, 07:03:33 PM
Amazing, he is on the home stretch!
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Off-Shore on February 12, 2017, 03:37:15 AM
Awesome to see this!
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Ichabod Spoonbill on February 12, 2017, 06:36:56 AM
 He's basically taking Columbus's route.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: jdmotes on February 13, 2017, 10:45:18 AM
Totally amazing stuff and wishing him all the luck in the world!

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Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: supthecreek on February 13, 2017, 11:35:54 AM
Dang... that's pretty cool stuff!
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Bean on February 13, 2017, 11:52:45 AM
I was an early skeptic, but now I'm convinced he's the real deal.  And yes, I think it would be extremely interesting to hear him speak about his journeys.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: UKRiverSurfers on February 14, 2017, 12:21:03 AM
The link you supplied is just an advert for his motivational speeches. It includes such gems as "if you truly believe in something, set your sights on your goal – no matter how big – work hard at it, stay focused and never give up, you can achieve anything". What a load of sh&t. No matter how hard I work I'm never gonna beat Usain Bolt at 100m, am I? So stop this childish nonsense. There's a difference between motivated and deluded, and success in life depends on recognising that difference.

Instead, here is the link that describes his actually SUP crossing, I think:

http://www.thesupcrossing.com

I wish him the best of luck. He is very brave to take this on and it would be an astonishing feat.

Bolt s on performance drugs - absolute no doubt. Bet he uses one of those rubber cocks with someone elses pee in a plastic bag. He'll get caught or found out one day.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: UKRiverSurfers on February 14, 2017, 12:30:37 AM
I knew from the start that this is the real deal... Just watch any if C Bertish vids.. IMO his downwind vids are better than any others on the globe.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: stoneaxe on February 14, 2017, 08:27:23 AM
Amazing stuff but I find the self promotion for motivational speeches a bit of a put off. When something inspiring is done in part as a publicity stunt it takes away from the accomplishment for me.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Bean on February 14, 2017, 08:50:56 AM
Ordinarily I would agree with you 100% Stoney.  But, in this case, I feel that CB has now sufficiently navigated through and beyond the realm of "publicity stunt".  I get the sense he is currently paddling in the realm of "holy shit".

Unlike a lot of other available motivational speakers in this world, (the Frank Abagnale types), CB is not going to get loads of free media attention, so (I say) more power to him.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: PonoBill on February 14, 2017, 09:00:41 AM
Totally in the "holy shit" zone. I'll even listen to Tony Robbins for a few minutes, sometimes--well, maybe never, but still. The guy has to make a living, and an effort of this magnitude doesn't come cheap--both in terms of equipment and simply removing himself from earning a living otherwise.

I'm good with whatever he's doing. It's an amazing accomplishment.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: stoneaxe on February 14, 2017, 09:44:59 AM
No question we're in the holy shit zone but that doesn't prevent the label of publicity stunt..in fact the more difficult something is the greater the potential for publicity. It was the popup on the website to book motivational speeches taking precedence over donations to charity that bothered me. I don't blame the guy for making a living and no question this is a marketable achievement but it seems a bit over the top having popups for speech booking. Have the popup for donations take center stage maybe? I went on there to make a donation...still did it .....but was a bit bothered by the self promotion.

I may be a bit too sensitive about it. I have some problems with all the promotion being done in general....everyone looking to be a team rider, or for free stuff, posting how stoked they are with this or #hashtag that. I walked away from being a Starboard ambassador, and later a Kenalu rep, because I didn't want it to even remotely seem like the CCBC was about marketing or benefiting me personally. The perception of the CCBC as grass roots all volunteer...pure charity was more important to me. But then I don't have to make a living at it so it's easy to be critical I guess.

No question an amazing undertaking and the promotion doesn't take away from the accomplishment......just stains the motivation behind it slightly....maybe.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: PonoBill on February 14, 2017, 09:58:00 AM
I understand your motivation dude, and I've always admired that in you.  But that's not everybody, and you never know the source of what might seem to be a flawed priority. I've been in too many meetings where the marketing priorities went haywire to judge something like that.

The delayed popup is the flavor de jour in web marketing, and deciding what to put in them takes second fiddle to the importance of having one. Any consultant/designer who doesn't insist on one would be considered an amateur. I can't wait to see what the next "required element" is.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Area 10 on February 14, 2017, 10:22:37 AM
The popup pissed me off as well, and so I just closed the site immediately.

I can't see why this kind of antic should render Chris any more qualified to give a motivational speech than e.g. someone who has managed to care for a sick person for years under difficult circumstances and without complaint or holiday. Good luck to him, it's an amazing feat. But these feats are all about ego and guts and glory, and the popup just reminded me too much of that.

It's a subtle balance, getting the tone of this sort of stuff right. And I don't think his web designer has served him well here, whether or not it conforms to the latest best method for selling toilet rolls to bored housewives.

But I sure hope he makes it anyway. The strain on his family and loved ones must be profound.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: PonoBill on February 14, 2017, 04:43:23 PM
The popup pissed me off as well, and so I just closed the site immediately.

It's a subtle balance, getting the tone of this sort of stuff right. And I don't think his web designer has served him well here, whether or not it conforms to the latest best method for selling toilet rolls to bored housewives.

But I sure hope he makes it anyway. The strain on his family and loved ones must be profound.

Everyone hates them, but of course, they work extremely well, especially delayed popups. There was a time an agency could argue that a strong result with an irritating tactic ignored the people you piss off that will never trust you again. But even inexpensive or free web analytics tools will tell you exactly who you're pissing off and how much you should care.

At least the most egregious stuff like opening new windows or browser instances when someone tries to leave the site have pretty much disappeared or are easily blocked. Yahoo has been doing seriously slimy and aggressive stuff for a long time. I avoid them like the plague that they are. I don't know anything about Chris Bertish, but I consider it likely that his well-heeled sponsor helped with the site stuff. It's a fairly sophisticated bit of work.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Ichabod Spoonbill on February 14, 2017, 04:51:20 PM
I really like that grass roots quality of the CCBC. It feels kind of crunchy, and with good beer!
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: stoneaxe on February 15, 2017, 07:06:54 AM
The popup pissed me off as well, and so I just closed the site immediately.

I can't see why this kind of antic should render Chris any more qualified to give a motivational speech than e.g. someone who has managed to care for a sick person for years under difficult circumstances and without complaint or holiday. Good luck to him, it's an amazing feat. But these feats are all about ego and guts and glory, and the popup just reminded me too much of that.

It's a subtle balance, getting the tone of this sort of stuff right. And I don't think his web designer has served him well here, whether or not it conforms to the latest best method for selling toilet rolls to bored housewives.

But I sure hope he makes it anyway. The strain on his family and loved ones must be profound.
It's bizarre that on many things we think so alike A10...maybe we should stay away from politics..... :).

Thanks Ian....it is kinda crunchy with good beer...and food... :) BTW....sent you a PM about my stupidity....I'm such an idiot sometimes..... :P
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: UKRiverSurfers on February 28, 2017, 02:19:06 AM
Guys - so what if its a publicity stunt.. Whats wrong with that??

I think sour grapes - that he is on the water making a living while most do a 9-5 day job for somebody else's idea.

 I got it continually on FB which is why i Fxxkd it off.

I make my money from water sports and everyone I know online but not in person gives me stick/hassle for it..

 What gives ?????????

People say - Ego... Well I say, your bit of your brain that does 'focused attention' Is ego and everyone has one if you think not then you are paddling in Da Nile :D

I have plans to do a 4000 mile trip non stop - I will do it on my own, with no 'Media  Glow'....I did have a FB page and intend to make a deal of it, but whats the point?

In media attention - No point. The point is - the guy doing his own thing is Alive.... Truly alive. 
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: stoneaxe on February 28, 2017, 05:11:11 AM
Sour grapes? Don't be silly. I wouldn't change what I do to make a living....I enjoy my work. You're welcome to your opinion but it doesn't change my perception of the focus of the website. You don't see a difference in an accomplishment if it was done for passion or to help others or "because its there" vs doing it for the money?
I have no idea of his motivation....I suspect it's because its there and that Bill is right..the marketing folks involved went sideways. No idea..I just know it takes some of the shine off an amazing undertaking in my mind.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Area 10 on February 28, 2017, 05:33:01 AM
Yes, I agree. I know a guy who knows Chris and he tells me he's a great guy and not at all pompous. So I'm sure this is just his website designer getting the tone a bit wrong.

But I think many of us are getting a bit tired of being barraged by requests from acquaintances for financial support for their latest japes, with the justification that it is for charity, when really you know that they are using the charitable aspect just to justify, legitimise, or pay for something they want to do anyway. And then there is the rise in "chuggers", and the dodgy tactics of some charities in targeting potential donors. I think this has perhaps created a certain jadedness (perhaps unfairly) around the whole issue of these kinds of events. Chris's amazing feat is made by the website to look like a way of selling him as a "motivational speaker", and this is no doubt very unfair, but it perhaps taps into this cynicism.

So, if Chris wants to do this kind of thing to prove something to himself, then that's great, and I will cheer him on. But if he then thinks that will persuade me to part with hard-earned cash to hear him tell me how great he is, and how I could be more like him if I only believed in it more, then frankly I'd be more impressed if he had looked after his sick elderly neighbour for the last 10 years, with no fanfare or expectation of reward or adulation. I would pay to hear that person speak over someone who had paddled to the moon and back.

But other opinions are available, for sure. Maybe I'm just a cynical old git.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Bean on February 28, 2017, 06:41:31 AM
I know I'm kind-of repeating myself, but I find the website to be refreshingly frank.

BTW, my 9-5 job is great, only trouble is, its usually more like 7 to whenever...(but with plenty of Zoner breaks.)
 
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Eagle on February 28, 2017, 08:29:11 AM
Paddling something that weighs 1350 lbs 4500 miles is a tad cray cray.  But can understand his motivation.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: stoneaxe on February 28, 2017, 11:31:25 AM
There is certainly an abundance of folks asking for donations for events, myself included, but I don't agree on the reasoning. The CCBC costs every paddler for registration, lodging, logistics, etc... none of that comes from donors....it has cost me $1,000's personally to help coordinate it. The financial cost has been far outweighed by the benefits though.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Bean on February 28, 2017, 11:40:16 AM
Mega-kudos to you Bob, but I would think those direct-costs should come off the top.  I'm sure the time you put in, is contribution enough. 
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: manta on February 28, 2017, 10:20:42 PM
So the focus of the trip which you are completely missing is to raise the equivalent of 1.5 million dollars for the smile foundation.
Chris is South African and while Americans cry about Trump we have millions of children that don't have food to eat.
This trip is to raise money to feed those kids.
So please STOP changing the focus to arbitrary rubbish and focus in the goal, putting food in the mouths of starving children.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: stoneaxe on March 01, 2017, 07:43:21 AM
Bean...for the CCBC I pay for registration like everyone else, it's basically that and gas for my truck for all the running around. Not a big deal and I've gotten more from the CCBC than anyone other than the kids. I can't put a price on what it's done for me.

Manta....It's hardly rubbish....and as to focus....did you miss my point about making the popup about donations instead of booking speaking gigs? The focus wasn't lost by me but by the folks that created the website....and I donated despite being turned off by it. But it's obviously a turnoff to some folks and everyone that closes the website because of it is a donor lost.....what's more important...donations or speaking fees?

It's an amazing accomplishment and for a good cause...a shame that somebodies idea of marketing should tarnish it.

Edit....went back to the site to check progress. Looks like someone else agrees on the popup...it's been replaced by one for donations via SMS.

Absolutely amazing that he's going to make it....looks like it anyway. For what it's worth I'd be happy to go hear him speak. I just wish they hadn't made it such a focus of the site.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Bean on March 01, 2017, 10:56:02 AM
Bean...for the CCBC I pay for registration like everyone else, it's basically that and gas for my truck for all the running around. Not a big deal and I've gotten more from the CCBC than anyone other than the kids. I can't put a price on what it's done for me.

Sorry Stoney, I misunderstood, I thought you were paying thousands per year to cover the admin costs.  And, I am familiar with that win/win feeling of volunteerism. 
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: stoneaxe on March 02, 2017, 09:29:19 PM
Bean...for the CCBC I pay for registration like everyone else, it's basically that and gas for my truck for all the running around. Not a big deal and I've gotten more from the CCBC than anyone other than the kids. I can't put a price on what it's done for me.

Sorry Stoney, I misunderstood, I thought you were paying thousands per year to cover the admin costs.  And, I am familiar with that win/win feeling of volunteerism.

LOL...if I only had that kind of cash.....I'd actually love to if I could but right now my wife would kill me. I told her that if we ever hit the lottery big I'd create an annuity for Christopher's Haven to provide the funding and run the CCBC as just a big paddle and party with with a couple hundred close friends.... ;) 8)

It goes far beyond the normal win/win of volunteerism. I've always volunteered my time for lots of different causes and have always felt good about it but nothing has ever benefited me so personally. Cliche, but it's changed my life.

Still blown away he's going to make this....very, very cool.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Area 10 on March 03, 2017, 01:34:27 AM
Yeah, we are about 10 years into this sport as far as record-setting distance paddling feats are concerned, and his has surely got to be the greatest ever SUP feat so far - and it is hard to see how it could be beaten. Amazing.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: UKRiverSurfers on March 03, 2017, 02:37:26 AM
Sour grapes? Don't be silly. I wouldn't change what I do to make a living....I enjoy my work. You're welcome to your opinion but it doesn't change my perception of the focus of the website. You don't see a difference in an accomplishment if it was done for passion or to help others or "because its there" vs doing it for the money?
I have no idea of his motivation....I suspect it's because its there and that Bill is right..the marketing folks involved went sideways. No idea..I just know it takes some of the shine off an amazing undertaking in my mind.

No - I don't... If you see money as evil, then you see your own measure as evil. Simple
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: UKRiverSurfers on March 03, 2017, 02:38:25 AM
A transactional outlook/perspective - if you see it as taking the shine off.

Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: UKRiverSurfers on March 03, 2017, 02:42:48 AM
Yes, I agree. I know a guy who knows Chris and he tells me he's a great guy and not at all pompous. So I'm sure this is just his website designer getting the tone a bit wrong.

But I think many of us are getting a bit tired of being barraged by requests from acquaintances for financial support for their latest japes, with the justification that it is for charity, when really you know that they are using the charitable aspect just to justify, legitimise, or pay for something they want to do anyway. And then there is the rise in "chuggers", and the dodgy tactics of some charities in targeting potential donors. I think this has perhaps created a certain jadedness (perhaps unfairly) around the whole issue of these kinds of events. Chris's amazing feat is made by the website to look like a way of selling him as a "motivational speaker", and this is no doubt very unfair, but it perhaps taps into this cynicism.

So, if Chris wants to do this kind of thing to prove something to himself, then that's great, and I will cheer him on. But if he then thinks that will persuade me to part with hard-earned cash to hear him tell me how great he is, and how I could be more like him if I only believed in it more, then frankly I'd be more impressed if he had looked after his sick elderly neighbour for the last 10 years, with no fanfare or expectation of reward or adulation. I would pay to hear that person speak over someone who had paddled to the moon and back.

But other opinions are available, for sure. Maybe I'm just a cynical old git.

YES - correct

If your cash is hard earned - that implies you hate your job, which probably explains why youre a cynic.. Incidentally - Cynics traditionally lived on the streets, so there you go :D
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Area 10 on March 03, 2017, 03:11:58 AM
If your cash is hard-earned it means you hate your job? Not at all. It just means you've worked hard, like paddling hard in a race. You can work hard at something you enjoy.

I suspect your views here are minority ones. For most people, the motivation a person has for doing something matters because it speaks to the degree of altruism or pro-sociality that is being shown. For instance, people will judge a person's responsibility for a negative outcome of an action according to the intent of the actor. There is a whole body of research on this sort of thing in the field of social psychology. But if someone is the kind of person who does not have particularly well developed "theory of mind" (i.e. the ease of understanding the states of mind of other people) then matters of someone else's motivation are likely relatively irrelevant to your judgement of another person's actions.

But we should not let this discussion detract from the incredible achievement of Chris Bertish. And if he has tweaked his website in response to the criticisms here (and/or perhaps other sources) then my respect for him has just grown further.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: stoneaxe on March 03, 2017, 06:15:32 AM
I'm sorry for you if your measure is money. Some of the wealthiest people I know don't have a lot of it. I'm not saying I wouldn't like more of it but I certainly don't measure my worth by it....simple.

I find that a very strange outlook...by your measure Gandhi would be worthless and Mother Theresa not deserve respect? Do I understand that correctly?
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Bean on March 03, 2017, 06:53:56 AM
Holy crap, I just looked at Chris's track.  He's so close, 4.2kts, heading 271 degrees, right into Antigua!
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: yugi on March 03, 2017, 09:23:54 AM
Amazing voyage.

Insanely impressed with the prediction of where landing would be. I know some Downwinders with lighter boards who are less accurate on shorter distances.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Easy Rider on March 03, 2017, 10:30:38 AM
Wow.
He certainly know how to read the currents and weather to be able to plot his course so accurately.
Good for him.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Eagle on March 03, 2017, 11:39:42 AM
"One of the most experienced transatlantic open ocean row experts, Leven Brown is in charge of the Sup Crossings routing and logistics and will be Chris’ main point of contact throughout the journey. Leven was on sight for the testing in the UK and assisted with all the final systems examinations in Morocco prior to launch. Chris is in great hands and Leven will utilize a professional marine weather forecast service, his knowledge of the craft and his own expertise of open ocean transatlantic crossings to make sure Chris is safe and on course the entire way."

http://www.thesupcrossing.com/project-team/

https://youtu.be/_m3CDL7LXKs
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: UKRiverSurfers on March 05, 2017, 01:27:07 AM
If your cash is hard-earned it means you hate your job? Not at all. It just means you've worked hard, like paddling hard in a race. You can work hard at something you enjoy.

I suspect your views here are minority ones. For most people, the motivation a person has for doing something matters because it speaks to the degree of altruism or pro-sociality that is being shown. For instance, people will judge a person's responsibility for a negative outcome of an action according to the intent of the actor. There is a whole body of research on this sort of thing in the field of social psychology. But if someone is the kind of person who does not have particularly well developed "theory of mind" (i.e. the ease of understanding the states of mind of other people) then matters of someone else's motivation are likely relatively irrelevant to your judgement of another person's actions.

But we should not let this discussion detract from the incredible achievement of Chris Bertish. And if he has tweaked his website in response to the criticisms here (and/or perhaps other sources) then my respect for him has just grown further.

I usually say - work smart not hard.. :)

Yes - Incredible and he Should tell the world if he/they so wish
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: UKRiverSurfers on March 05, 2017, 01:28:16 AM
I'm sorry for you if your measure is money. Some of the wealthiest people I know don't have a lot of it. I'm not saying I wouldn't like more of it but I certainly don't measure my worth by it....simple.

I find that a very strange outlook...by your measure Gandhi would be worthless and Mother Theresa not deserve respect? Do I understand that correctly?

Money is just a measuring device.. Nothing more nothing less. It flows - currency
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: stoneaxe on March 05, 2017, 05:35:08 AM
Yeah it's one measure....and a sad one to apply to the value of a person. Currency comes in many forms.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: supthecreek on March 05, 2017, 06:17:35 AM
Pretty frickin' cool...
If I were rich, I would fly down to Antigua, paddle out a few miles and view this amazing feat completed.... in person!

To even seriously consider attempting this, is on the freakish side.... but to actually pull it off? Wow! ;D ;D

March 9th is the window he's shooting for. Stay tuned.
http://www.thesupcrossing.com/live/
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: supthecreek on March 05, 2017, 06:38:58 AM
I just looked at his track vs forecast wind directions.... he may have some challenging cross winds the last few days.

Here's a wind map of March 9th wind with his live track overlaid
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: capobeachboy on March 05, 2017, 07:58:28 PM
Yea Chris Bertish you freak !!! 
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: UKRiverSurfers on March 06, 2017, 12:15:35 AM
Yeah it's one measure....and a sad one to apply to the value of a person. Currency comes in many forms.

Yeah and the only True value is how you feel inside. Money is us, its our own Maya, which we put there so if its Sad, thats sad. :(

Comprende?
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: yugi on March 06, 2017, 12:20:05 AM
Awesome.

Bet he's getting thirsty for a beer. Or two.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: UKRiverSurfers on March 06, 2017, 12:21:54 AM
I often thought about going tee total at the end of long trips - everytime. Never works though. The drugs and alcohol just keep coming.  ;D

The Pacific next then?
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: johnysmoke on March 06, 2017, 06:27:13 AM
I often thought about going tee total at the end of long trips - everytime. Never works though. The drugs and alcohol just keep coming.  ;D
Yes! Another problem with imbibing after a long trip is your tolerance is totally shot. Four beers into the evening you're screaming the only half dozen Spanish words you know, at the top of your lungs, while smoking something that would make the Marlboro man immediately puke down his shirt.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: stoneaxe on March 06, 2017, 06:27:36 AM
Thankfully no...I don't understand. Something created to assign value to items and provide for easy trade is a measure of our worth as a person?...and money is maya? Me thinks you're getting a bit metaphysical for such a basic question.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: capobeachboy on March 06, 2017, 08:19:53 AM
Here's an update from the log on how Chris is dealing with the winds. It's gonna be a heavy finish...

I have to get as many miles as possible, but also I have to get North, in anticipation of the changing wind in a couple days time, so I'm up waiting to reach 210NM to my waypoint, before I change my course from dead downwind to come off autopilot and go onto my crab-drogue sideways system, where I can alter course by almost 40 degrees, so I can crab my way North until the morning.
I lose miles and speed drops by half, but if I don't do this, I won't be far enough North by the 7th when the wind goes NE for the last 2,5 days of the project and I won't be able to make the angle to get to Antigua...and will be battling across it and end up somewhere near the other islands like Guadeloupe or Barbados and even through Barbados is one of my favorite islands, it's not where I'm really wanting to go right now!
So that's the plan, then up at 6 am to reset the pilot till 8 am, get my weather upset and paddle another 12-14 hours again tomorrow and the next day and the next and the next until I finish, hopefully late afternoon on Thursday the 9th March in pumping, 20-30 knots of breeze!
This is the plan, by the ocean and Mother Nature always had a way of messing with any plan you have, so I have now surrendered to the flow & know that each day I will do my best with the conditions and what I get and no matter my plan, I will have to bend it and mould it around the conditions I get and try and pre-emt, whatever I can ahead of time and hope for the best..
Whether I finish on the 9th or 10th, as long as I get there I'm happy.. I have done my inventory and have enough supplies and more importantly coffee for another week, so it's all good, I have to flow with what the ocean and nature has in store for me and know it will all work out just the way it's meant to, flow with it, work with the elements as much as I can, flow and I'll eventually get there...
The conditions over the next 3-4 days are going to be super intense 20-30 knots NE/ENE and I will only know the wind angle expected by tomorrow afternoon when it fills in until then I can just paddle across it as much as possible West, while its lighter 10-15 knots for 8-12hrs a day.. As once the stringer breeze kicks in, I'm going with it & then very limited in regards to my routing..
But as always, we'll make it work, no matter what...
As long as I pass the Eastern tip of any of the Islands, wether that be Antigua or Guadalupe, the full Crossing is complete and then I my team can come and help me & guide me in..
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: peterp on March 08, 2017, 07:00:04 AM
Chris will land in Antigua in the next 12-24 hours.... he's got less than 50Nm to go....

This crossing was pure madness - but he's just about done, incredible!!!!

http://www.zigzag.co.za/featured/chris-bertish-glory-inbound/
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Area 10 on March 09, 2017, 03:59:25 AM
He's nearly there!
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: peterp on March 09, 2017, 04:40:16 AM
He's in - 3 months and 5300 kms from Agadir to Antigua. Monster effort! Never to be beaten nor repeated me thinks.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: PDLSFR on March 09, 2017, 06:05:54 AM
Just think about it....93 days out there in the ocean...essentially paddling a marathon 40 miles every day !!!

Guy's a beast !!

Hope he sleeps for a week and eats like a king !!!!!!
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: capobeachboy on March 09, 2017, 06:14:38 AM
YEA CHRIS !!!
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Bean on March 09, 2017, 06:15:30 AM
Wow!

"Bertish stroked into Antigua’s English Harbour to complete a historic crossing that has covered an unbelievable 4050 miles"   Unassisted!
 

http://www.supthemag.com/news/transatlantic-crossing-complete-chris-bertish-lands-antigua/#fWwcp7mFKmUEwzkE.99

Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: stoneaxe on March 09, 2017, 06:22:53 AM
Damn......amazing
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: yugi on March 09, 2017, 06:39:31 AM
So glad he made it. The start looked pretty tricky, must not have been fun to have one's food swamped at the start of a voyage like this. Could have gotten tricky at any moment.

Congrats, Chris!
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: burchas on March 09, 2017, 06:50:22 AM
SUPthemag will probably slap the expedition of the year title on that, but this is
on whole different level!
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: yugi on March 09, 2017, 07:12:42 AM
His website is on a whole different level... of total disaster. So many things wrong with it but mainly, very time I go there I wade around in crap that doesn't work and can;t find the info I need.

Why the hell aren't they live streaming via Youtube his arrival?

Searched. Didn't find. BAM, that's it. Next. The modern attention span.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: PDLSFR on March 09, 2017, 07:37:39 AM
Yugi it was covered live on Facebook by a few folks (SuptheMag) had a cool live feed all way in plus his enjoying a burger and beer.
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: WhatsSUP on March 09, 2017, 07:50:09 AM
Just imagine the severe case of "dock rock" he's gonna have!!!!  Especially after a beer or two...he'll be grabbing for stable objects left and right even when sitting in a nice comfy lazyboy!!!  My longest underway period is 45 days and that was on a ship and "dock rock" could get pretty intense!

Hold on Chris!   8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Major accomp!...Congrats to him!
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Beasho on March 09, 2017, 08:19:34 AM
Looks like a bunch of the Half Moon Bay crowd were there to greet Chris.  Facebook shows Jeff Clark and Brian Overfelt giving him big hugs upon arrival.

You may, or may not remember, that Chris won the Mavericks competition in 2010.  2010 had the biggest waves ever competed in at Mavericks which at that time meant the biggest waves ever competed in the world - EVER! (This was pre Nazarre, pre Peahi . . )

There were a bunch of local fundraisers for Chris and I am glad he made it.   I am sure more photos and morning news shows to come on his remarkable accomplishment.   
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Tom on March 09, 2017, 09:00:30 AM
it's  amazing   that  there  are  few news  reports  on this  outside  of  water  sports  related  reporters
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: TallDude on March 09, 2017, 03:41:28 PM
I bet he's trashed. It'll probably take him a month or two to recover and adjust. That was an incredible achievement. Someone will surf a bigger wave, but I bet it will be a long time before some else tries to cross the Atlantic ocean using a KeNalu paddle ;D
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: JEG on March 09, 2017, 04:23:12 PM
remarkable!
Title: Re: The SUP Crossing - Chris Bertish
Post by: Off-Shore on March 09, 2017, 05:51:00 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/09/sport/chris-bertish-sup-atlantic-crossing/index.html
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