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Stand Up Paddle => Gear Talk => Topic started by: prskiller on March 07, 2012, 03:12:52 PM
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I currently surf my 9'3 ripper quad and was thinking about getting the new hull ripper. Floatation wise which hr would be more like the ripper, the 9'2 or 9'6?
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The 9-2 HR is a wide at 30 wide the 9-6 HR is a Pro at 28 wide , the 9-2 HRW is the best all rounder but the 9-6 pro is only a little stable and draws really nice lines and has a beautiful plane shape. My pick the 9-6 for the bigger stuff and the 9-2 for everyday , hope this helps.
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Thanks for that info. Now that I've noticed it, Blueline shows the 9'2 wide like you say but on PSH site it shows the 9'2x29.5 and no 9'6 but a 9'7x29.75. A bit confusing. What I'm looking for is a bit more stability than my 9'3 ripper in the chop.
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Go the 9'2 HR ;) I ride it and reckon it is a good board that is stable and can be thrown around from the back.
The bigger the surf the better it goes.
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Thanks for that info. Now that I've noticed it, Blueline shows the 9'2 wide like you say but on PSH site it shows the 9'2x29.5 and no 9'6 but a 9'7x29.75. A bit confusing. What I'm looking for is a bit more stability than my 9'3 ripper in the chop.
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PSH site is showing the 2012 models which are available in Hawaii but Blueline is showing 2011 models. The 9-2 width changed for 2012.
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Thanks for that AJR. Looks like it'll be that 2012 9'2 since I'm on Maui ;D
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Thanks for that AJR. Looks like it'll be that 2012 9'2 since I'm on Maui ;D
Or:
http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/spo/2878447896.html
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I would also like some advice along these lines. I'm looking at the 9-11HRW to be my first
non- longboard shape. I am stable on my 10-6x28 AA PSH and can just get it going on my
9-2x28 AA. The board would be used in bigger waves. Mahalo.
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What I'm looking for is a bit more stability than my 9'3 ripper in the chop.
Just so you know the hull rippers and less stable than the progressive
series.
Their are no more pro models the only models for the hull rippers for 2012 are the ones ones on the PSH site.
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So like the description says I should choose 3" longer than what I normally ride. I'll have to check out that 6'7 then.
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I don't know about the 3" longer thing never heard about that. I have ridden the 9 7 it is stable but it does have a sweet spot if you are to far forward it is tippy to far back you sink the tail. I would say it is a little more stable than the 9 2 WR . The board is going to feel way bigger but does paddle extremely well. I have only ridden it in bigish surf not sure how it would be in small surf.
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I read the "order 3" bigger" at Blueline which is for the 2011 models. Maybe Blane will chime in here regarding this and the 2012 models. My ripper is for big surf, I have the 10'6 Pearson Laird for the small stuff.
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Oh, then you will love the 9 7. I am 180-190lbs and floated me great. It surfed really well. Takes late drops like a champ.
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Oh, then you will love the 9 7. I am 180-190lbs and floated me great. It surfed really well. Takes late drops like a champ.
Cool. I'm the same weight, love my 9'3 ripper. I wanted to go smaller but if it's not glassy (rarely is here on Maui) then I have a hard time staying on top. I usually sit and wait for the sets anyway. It's either the 9'7 or 9'2, I'll see what's in stock.
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Found a bit more info regarding the 2012 hull ripper lineup.
http://www.paddlesurfhawaii.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/BrochureHullRipper.jpg (http://www.paddlesurfhawaii.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/BrochureHullRipper.jpg)
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Following what you guys are saying and weighing in at 200 the 9-11 should be OK
for me. Sorry for the interuption, killer.
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Following what you guys are saying and weighing in at 200 the 9-11 should be OK
for me. Sorry for the interuption, killer.
No worries, jump on in. Glad to have this topic help others. Yeah that 9'11 should do it for you.
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Interesting thread here...
How does the hull ripper work in smaller waves? I like riding hull surfboards, and I'm used to the rail to rail transition that hulls require. Can you make the hull ripper "get up and go" in smaller waves? When the waves are bigger, I tend to ride surfboards.
FYI, I'm 215 lbs... so I'm thinking the 9'11 is my only option, although I would be stoked to ride the 9'7.
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Just my experience with the HULL RIPPER....I 've had mine since last summer. Live in Northeast Florida and ride it 60+% of the time. As long as the surf is not too mushy it rides great in anything waist high or bigger. In mushy surf or below waist high I ride my 9'6 PSH Wide AA.
Sizing..I'm also 215 lbs. I have the 9'6 Wide Hull Ripper in the wood veneer. It was a little tippy at first but paddles great once you get used to it. I'm a little confused about what PSH is doing with the Hull Rippers in 2012. It seems that they have stopped making the wood veneer Hull Rippers, and just have limited sizes in the vacuum bagged PVC models....shame...the 9'6 WIDE HULL RIPPER would have worked great for you!!! Check around, there may be a few of them left....Tim
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No 2012 models available in mainland USA until later this year...
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I'm a bit lighter@165lbs. I have been on the 9'2"ripper for a while. I have been wanting to try the 8'9". Local shop rents one that I will try soon.
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Nice to hear all this feedback over the hr's. They have not yet been available over
here. The first container with 2012 boards will arrive this summer date unkown.
The new models are PVC contruction it says somewhere, heavier but more durable.
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I've been riding the 8'9" HR since the late fall.
At 165 #'s / 5'10" I find the board fits me well up to moderate wind/chop.
It's fast and turns as hard as your ability allows.
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Hey blockidog, I saw in your signature line you have a 8 9 hull ripper in carbon. How did you get one? I have never seen a carbon fiber PSH.
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Gang,
The 2012 PSH Hull Rippers models are just starting to come out and are in limited availability. As someone noted above, they are not the same models as the 2011 wood veneers. The 2012 models are the latest refinements by Blane in the evolution of the Hull Rippers. Many of the stability concerns have been addressed by adding volume and length. I'm told the shapes were tested by the team for several months before settling on these models. I'm sure there is a little confusion right now as the two lines settle in for 2012. In my experience the PVC construction is not noticeably different in weight from the wood veneers, but is slightly stronger.
As for surfing the HR in small waves, I've had a great time with mine in clean knee high stuff and overhead juice as well. As with any board, not much does great in mush except a big boat of a board.
I hope this helps.
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As with any board, not much does great in mush except a big boat of a board.
Actually, in slow mushy junk waves, ShortSUPs (less than 7') are a blast! One of reason is that the foam exert less force on them, so you are not blocked by hitting the foam, and their short length means that even at the slow speed of junk waves, they are planing, where a big board would be in displacement mode.
This said, I will gladly try a Hull Ripper. Only saw one here, but couldn't try it, the owner had lost to screw the vent plug, but the shape was really attractive. The thin rails were specially sexy...
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Gang,
The 2012 PSH Hull Rippers models are just starting to come out and are in limited availability. As someone noted above, they are not the same models as the 2011 wood veneers. The 2012 models are the latest refinements by Blane in the evolution of the Hull Rippers. Many of the stability concerns have been addressed by adding volume and length. I'm told the shapes were tested by the team for several months before settling on these models. I'm sure there is a little confusion right now as the two lines settle in for 2012. In my experience the PVC construction is not noticeably different in weight from the wood veneers, but is slightly stronger.
As for surfing the HR in small waves, I've had a great time with mine in clean knee high stuff and overhead juice as well. As with any board, not much does great in mush except a big boat of a board.
I hope this helps.
Yep,
The 9 7, I rode was from the new batch.
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Hey blockidog, I saw in your signature line you have a 8 9 hull ripper in carbon. How did you get one? I have never seen a carbon fiber PSH.
Carbon on the US version designates carbon reinforcements - I believe under the pad.
Call Blueline and check their availability. I got it there:
http://bluelinepaddlesurf.com/boards/psh.php (http://bluelinepaddlesurf.com/boards/psh.php)
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I'm still trying to decide between the 9'7 or 9'11 HR. Has anyone surfed the 9'11? How well does it go rail-to-rail? I'm 215lbs.
I'm leaning towards the 9'11 to get a little extra float and paddling speed. But at 31" wide, I'm worried it might be too wide.
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The New 2012 9 11 model is 29 3/4 if that helps. I would wait for that one.
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Some great info here:
http://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Review/psh-hull-rippers/ (http://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Review/psh-hull-rippers/)
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Aside from stability, would you all agree that the main difference that 2" makes in the width of a board is in how "skatey" it is...the ability to rock rail to rail to generate speed? As in the narrower the board, the more that rail-to-rail increases?
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Just to give you a idea on sizing info....
Im 80kg and ride the 9'2x 30 1/2 hull ripper. My mate is 110kg and rides the 9'11 hull ripper. And my other mate is 90kg and is purchasing the 9'6 x30 1/2 hull ripper.(All experienced surfers surfing east coast Austrralian conditions.)
ILL be looking to invest in the 9'11 to use as my gun.
These boards can be a hand full in choppy conditions so i would definatley reconmend choosing a bit more length.
Between the three boards theres not a lot of difference in the volume but i think that the extra length helps with stability.
These boards are suited for surfers who like surfing off the back foot.
IMO performance wise theres nothing that surfs better .
When surfing small waves(waist height) i use a small set of quads , its amazing how much speed you can generate on a 9 foot board.
Then in the bigger stuff (up to ceiling height) i just use the standard fins that come with the board.
Cheers
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I have been following this thread and have surfed the 8'9 HR, 9'6 HR and own the 9'2 hull Ripper. I have been riding PSH's for many years and also have owned many other brand boards as well as making a few of my own in the early days. I have no ties with PSH and buy all my boards.
I am 93kgs, 5'11 and have been riding boards from 8'0 to 10'6 and can share a few thoughts on them. I have surfed the 9'2 HR more than the others in surf from 1-8 foot.
The 8'9 HR surfs great and is easier to throw around, paddles well and is quite stable if you are intermediate to advanced level under 95 kgs. Probably not a beginners board of choice. You have to be prepared to push this board like a short board. Not for cruising.
The 9'2 HR is a great all-round board for most conditions. The board paddles well and is extremely stable and the only difference I notice between the 8'9 and this one is it feel a little longer in the swing factor when cutting back.It is awesome for paddling back out through the whitewash with the pointy thin nose and rails. I mainly use this board in the bigger days as I have a 8'6 Magic Carpet Luke Egan which is my everyday board in east coast Australian surf.
My Mate rides the 9'6 HR and 9'2 HR and is a 92kg experienced rider(see seabreeze http://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Review/psh-hull-rippers/ (http://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Review/psh-hull-rippers/) and tells me the 9'6 HR has more of a mal glide to it but still goes well. Maybe this is because of the extra length. He prefers the 9'2 HR.
I ride all these boards with the PSH quad set and they do fit well with the boards and their performance. They generate alot of straight line speed which makes turning easier from the back foot when right over the rear fins.
If you are a front foot surfer I don't think this board is for you.
These style of boards do require a little bit of time to dial them in. So don't write them of after 1 surf as they are a unique sup design.
If you can demo them even better.
Hope this helps you guys who are undecided.
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I just picked up a 9'11 Hull Ripper. I'll let you all know how it works for a 220lb human soon...
I also need to find a set of quad large PSH future fins. :)
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I just picked up a 9'11 Hull Ripper. I'll let you all know how it works for a 220lb human soon...
I also need to find a set of quad large PSH future fins. :)
Post up some pics of the board if you can ;)
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I'm pretty stoked with my 9'11 Hull Ripper so far. I'm 220lbs, and it floats me ok. Although it's a little squirrely, but that's due to poor technique most likely.
One the wave, it's a fun board! I can really feel how the hull shape goes rail-to-rail smoothly. It's dynamic to pump down the line, and it makes sections with ease. Not bad for a 31" wide board at all.
I've used it with Futures Controllers quads, and with the Rasta Keels in the front, and GL-2 quad rears. Both fin packages work just fine, although the Controllers seemed smoother rail to rail. I'm going to try it with the Rastas in front, and the Controller rears next.
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I have to totally with some of the comments on how well the hull rippers surf. I have the 2012 PVC 8 9 which is actually closer to 8 11 and the first time I took it out and pushed it the board reacted so fast that I almost pulled a leg muscle trying to keep up with the board. I've been riding it for 3 months now and I'm still find out more about how much you can do on this board. You definately have to use your paddle for stability through the turns if you push it hard. Unless you are a rubber man, the board can turn quicker than you can react when worked hard in any turn...perhaps if I was 30 years younger I might feel a little different.
Gene who works at PSH is about 190 lbs and recommended the 8 9 to me because he also rides the same size. The stats on the board shows that it will handle guys over 200 lbs. I have the 8 6 bamboo ripper which is another great board for surfing but I rather surf the hull. I've only surfed it twice in overhead conditions and it handles. Even small knee high stuff can be fun, the board is versitle and is only limited by what you can do.